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A society in which it's everyone for themselves, that refuses to care for one another, is no society at all. Then everyone acts shocked and horrified at someone who understandably snaps, like modern western culture doesn't run entirely on schadenfreude.

That was the crux of the idea of a social contract, which is long dead in the US. Now people line up to revel in the suffering of their fellow citizens with "well you were stupid to do xyz in life, so you deserve your suffering haha."

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

How you conduct yourself is a reflection of you not of the people treating you poorly. Have some pride in your own conduct and let shitty people suffer consequences of their behavior.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Being oppressed isn't the same thing as being ignored. So if I simply refuse to help you, that doesn't mean you should feel free to take my stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, Trumpers, QNON, NeoNazis really do deserve every ounce of suffering and jail time as it's doled out to the brainless twits. There are plenty of great liberal havens out here in the U.S. that definitely still have society and community.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I like food and a roof over my head, so imma pitch in.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I like food and a roof over my head

Neat, so do a lot of people who work but cant afford rent, and a lot of homeless people who tried and got screwed over for their trouble, and a lot of people with mental and physical health issues it was a roll of the dice they'd get rather than you. If you feel that way about the people in your society, they shouldn't care about pissing on your lawn or worse beyond getting caught by ~~police~~ the capital holder defense force, which isn't winning the underlying debate, it's just pointing a gun at someone when you can't win the debate.

Thank you for being a prime example of what I'm talking about, friend.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not an unpopular opinion, just a reasoning that anyone could realize.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know, I always hear people telling people who've been at the ass end of society their whole lives here to just be like Charlie Brown and show up tomorrow with a smile to get fucked over again like it's their duty and obligation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If you are from the USA perhaps it is less obvious, but in a European nation for example you can only accept to live in the society in which you find yourself otherwise you would not have education, healthcare and public services. if you don't accept it, you can change it with the tools they offer you or you can protest, emigrate or commit suicide.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Agreed, but I think the opposite point is more poignant: Yes, you are owed things. Take them.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Gonna need some firm evidence that the social contract is "long dead" in the US or this post is just nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

https://time.com/5845116/coronavirus-bailout-rich-richer/ https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/01/opinion/sunday/inequality-america-paul-krugman.html https://www.opensecrets.org/news/reports/a-decade-under-citizens-united https://www.congress.gov/event/116th-congress/house-event/LC64096/text?s=1&r=3 https://apnews.com/article/black-lives-matter-10th-anniversary-trayvon-martin-c2d79ae4639934ca1eb77d6b54c16f8b

The social contract is broken when a state asks its citizens to obey the law but doesn’t give them equal benefit from fulfilling the duties of law.

I could keep cobbling links together as examples, but if your metric is a President going on TV and tearing up a piece of paper labeled the social contract while looking into the camera saying "the social contract is dead, officially. No take backsies, can't triple stamp a double no social contract double stamp." then I can't help you.

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