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In response to the disastrous Spez AMA, /r/Videos have announced that they will permanently shut down on 11th June, one day ahead of the planned blackout (old.reddit.com)

submitted 2 years ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello everyone, I’ll try to keep this short as I know there’s been a lot going on over the last few days. When we made our announcement last week, we intended to get Reddit's attention on a subject that our team found extremely concerning. /r/Videos is joining a larger coordinated protest and signing an open letter to the admins found here.

The announcement was of exceedingly high API prices which we all know was to intentionally kill 3rd party applications on reddit (Apollo, Reddit is Fun, Boost, Relay, etc.) Since that post several things have become clear; Reddit is not willing to listen to its users or the mod teams from many of its largest communities on this matter. Yesterday all major third-party Reddit apps announced that they would be shutting down on the 30th of June due to these changes. There were no negotiations and Reddit refused to extend the deadlines. The rug was pulled out from under them and by extension all of the users who rely on those tools to use reddit.

In addition to this, the AMA hosted by Steve Huffman, CEO of Reddit, which was intended to alleviate concerns held by many users about these issues, was nothing short of a collage of inappropriate responses. There are many things to take away from this AMA but here are the key points. Most disappointingly it appears that Reddit outright misconstrued the actions of Apollo's creator /u/iamthatis by saying that he threatened Reddit and leaked private phone calls, something done only to clear his name of another accusation.

So what’s happening? The TL;DR? Effective tomorrow (6/11/2023), /r/Videos will be restricting posting capabilities. Anything posted before the cut off date will likely be the final front page of our community before we go private indefinitely. In the unlikely scenario that Reddit ownership has a sudden change of heart and capitulates on their decisions we will reopen, but until that happens /r/Videos will stay closed. Many other communities have come to similar decisions and we support those who have decided to take a stand.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I commend the shutdown but if things get out of hand reddit admins will take over the popular subs. They won’t let a prime sub get shut down by mods.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thanks for grabbing the text, that's very helpful. Good for /r/videos, way to send a strong message.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

LETSGOOOOOOOOO

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow! I didn't expect something like this from such a big subreddit. I expect the admins will just take it over though.

Depending on how many other subreddits do this, they won't be able to run all of them on their own.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Admins may take it over, but a big default sub like that has a big moderation team, and they are all volunteers. I expect the admins won't be able to find suitable replacements to match the level of free labour they've been getting

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think any and all subreddits should go this way.

Reddit is only popular because of the users. We create the content. Yes, a lot of posts on the website are external links but all discussions are generated and concluded by us, the users.

Shutting subs down for 1-2 days and going back to normal is not going to have much of an impact. It's akin to a server blip. If subs shut down indefinitely then reddit has a real problem. 'Normal' users will start to take notice, whereas they currently might not be paying much attention. These subs should go the other route. Shut down and promote alternatives (such as lemmy!) to divert traffic away from reddit.

Pigboy Spez talked about not being profitable. No shit, you dick. This is how you become even less profitable, by pissing off the entire user base.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's also the mods, working for free while other platforms spend millions on moderation.

I remember several years ago there was another exodus towards Voat, it didn't last long because that place was an unmoderated mess, 99% was spam, unbearable, people got back to reddit really quick and Voat shutdown a few years later.

I really don't understand how spez cannot realize this, piss off all the mods (on top of users) and you're doomed because you have nothing to moderate the platform anymore, see how your investors can be happy about that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wasn't the exodus to Voat largely due to Reddit cracking down on a few hate speech subs? Really narrow segment of the user base moving to other platforms vs. what's happening today.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah. They shut down subs like fatpeoplehate. So those are the type of people who went to voat.

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