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I think it's pretty safe to say that the majority of us are here to avoid another corporate takeover of our preferred platforms. It would seem to me to be a tad irresponsible to allow Facebook into our space with open arms, allowing them to hoover up our data. I would love to keep using Lemmy.world, but will happily change instances if need be, and I feel many share that sentiment.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If meta wants to data farm lemmy, what's to stop them from hosting a 1 user instance, being federated with lemmy, and....? Profit?

I'm not worried about information going that way, it's an open source deal, information is already going that way.

As for getting more content from another instance? I'm not against it, as long as it's regulated, and at risk of defederation if it gets out of hand

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (10 children)

People who keep touting the point that defederating from Meta means we are cutting people off from fediverse are picturing this situation wrong. Based on what I've read, people see this little island of people compared to the mainland where there will be physical barrier because shouldnt tear down the bridge.

But the net isnt like that. People have just as much freedom creating a Threads account as they do a Lemmy or Mastodon account.

And don't say that the fediverse is too difficult to understand for the average person. That kind of rhetoric is what will push people away.

Everyone needs to be patient with growth. It's not going to happen in a year just like it took years for reddit to grow. I do believe that more and more people will be interested in the fediverse once they realize that corporate oversight is non existent here. And that can only happen if we keep the major instances disconnected from Meta or any for profit company.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Any admins of Lemmy.world reading this? Can we tag them?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (13 children)

What data is Facebook "hoovering up" through federation that they don't already have access to?

I have asked this question a dozen times and no one can ever give me a legitimate answer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Meta don't need to federate to get all of the ActivityPub information. By it's nature everything that is posted to it is public and unencrypted - including private messages. This is a PR move instead of a data gathering activity. Maybe also they are trying to bootstrap content into their new platform which would otherwise be a barren wastelend.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I thought Threads was supposed to be a competitor to twitter? I don't understand how they'd even integrate with Lemmy instances. I'm here to see posts from boards/forums/subs, not from specific people. Would posts from random Threads user profiles start showing up on the main page?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Fuck anything and everything about Meta. Don't let them near this.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

I am in agreement on this one.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I will absolutely change instances to one which has defederated from FB.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm planning the same.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (15 children)

I will be leaving if lemmy.world defederates with threads.

Just give users the ability to block instances themselves so we can be done with this.

Stop letting other people make decisions for you.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (13 children)

What public info could they gather? My IP?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm not worried about Threads joining the fediverse. They can't even properly implement hashtags and trending topics, which already puts them far behind Mastodon and X.

Also, how would users on a microblogging platform be able to interact with a Lemmy instance? I'm a bit confused about how ActivityPub works in that respect.

The 'they can farm our data' argument is a bit moot when Lemmy is already publicly accessible, and it makes us no better than Spez if we are trying to combat people for 'data scraping"

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