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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

We had a recruiter 20 years ago. The kids are smarter these days tho it seems.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

You'll probably be shipped off to Africa at some point. America isn't interested in oil anymore, it's all about them minerals so we can build them high tech weapons.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)

Army is a bunch of parasites on the face of the Earth. Parasites that set the rules, as any ruler turning against them will be overthrown.

Army doesn't make any productive labor; instead, it siphons trillions of dollars making the machines intentionally designed to kill people - and puts them to use.

Society loses literally nothing without armies. They don't "protect" you from anything but other armies, and without armies and wars and threats we could move way further as a humanity.

Don't let anyone brainwash you into accepting this monstrosity. Army is bullying their own countries, bullying and extorting each and every one of us. They are the real enemy. And they will do everything in their power to distract you from that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I apologize in advance of the things I am about to say to you but this has to be one of the most naive and sophomoric statements I have ever read, so I'm going to address you as a teenager because I hope nobody gets to adulthood believing such bullshit.

To start with I hate to be the bearer of bad news but a substantial percent of humans are violent by nature, which means there is no amount of logical debate that will convince someone to not take your things or your life. This transcends to the national level which is why every peaceful nation in history has an army, for self-defense.

Army doesn't make any productive labor? My brother in Christ you are on the internet. Which means you are using a software that implements TCP/IP protocols specifically designed to build the . . . Drumroll . . . ARPANET! For the US military? Did you type that comment with your phone? Did you use GPS today? Hell the entire space race was funded for military reasons!

I have to envy you though. Thinking that you can simply argue your way out of any confrontation without the threat of violence, must be nice. Ask Palestinians or Ukranians what they think of that.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Can't you get paid to become an officer with a good non-combat role in the US? Sure being cannon fodder sucks but becoming an engineer or a doctor at their expense can be a decent upstart.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's like applying to McDonald's as a burger flipper, hoping to become a ceo

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Back in 2001 the recruiter at my high school very nearly convinced my girlfriend at the time to join up. She was not cut out for that life, and did eventually back out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

i went to a high school that had a JROTC program so having a recruiter was extremely expected for me, but forthem to send unsolicited recruitment texts lol? yall go to some sussy ass schools

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

You know, there's an aspect to the bond, the camaraderie, the discipline, the fitness that I really appreciate about soldiering. Growing up with films like Band of Brothers practically on repeat, having read pretty close to every book that came out from those guys — well, I have admiration. But at the same time as I grew up and became more leftist I of course had many issues with the volatility of our leadership.

If I could've joined Norway, Canada, or German armed forces under the NATO banner, I may very well have done that. After seeing everything transpiring in Ukraine, I often wonder if I'd have the courage to do what those brave people are doing every day. In the right context, under purely defensive conditions, I'd like to think I would've thrived, but who knows...

But second to volatile leadership is quite honestly the type of people the military tends to attract. The desperate, the jar-head conservative types. If life is on the line, I'd rather not be in a foxhole with them if I'm honest.

But there's a lot of talk that finally the culture may be shifting within the US Military — to attract smarter, better educated people. I know a lot of conservatives are retiring early and not joining up because they feel the "culture is changing," which is a good sign to me.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The desperate, the jar-head conservative types. If life is on the line, I’d rather not be in a foxhole with them if I’m honest.

Conservatives are all about making small in-groups and large out-groups. If you're in the out-group, go fuck yourself. If you're in the small in-group, their life goal is to elevate their in-group above all the out-groups.

In a foxhole, conservatives and liberals are pretty much the same. Only the people in the foxhole matter at that moment.

It's when they come home and conservatives can't give a damn about more than a dozen people and can only see six months into their future that is the real problem.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My school's recruiter specifically targeted athletes. Like I'm trying to get a college scholarship, not join the ROTC

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Our recruiters held pull-up competitions to see who could do the most during lunch. Sad if you think about it....the winners get to be pressured to join the military since they show good athletic ability.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lot of people in here who are very uncomfortable with the fact that the world is a messy place made up of almost entirely morally grey issues with exclusively morally grey situations. Good, now do something about it.

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