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Hello this is my first time here. We search for new milling distributor around my place (Indonesia). We did found this strange looking milling machine. This look different from another. They use somekind of electrical rotor or idk. I wonder if anyone know this particular design. Would this work great or nah?

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Ok so i talked to our resident machinist at work (he does really cool shit like converting a 3axis CNC into 5Axis mill at home) and asked him about the motor. Bluegill and our Resident Machinist had the same Idea. that the motor wasn't wired for 110V and that's why it flicks on and off. however i opened up the motor to tried to wire it to low voltage diagram Which i assume is 115v. However the guy who wired this up originally didn't wire it up anywhere close to the diagram and i have no idea how to wire it up right as the original diagram is super hard to read and i don't understand the terminology. Like t5 or t10, I have wired a 3d Printer before so it isn't my first rodeo wiring but i have no idea how to wire up this motor correctly. that's where smart people like you come in, i need help wiring the motor and the diagram is hard to understand for my very smol hamster brain like mine.

so from what i understand. this my recreation of all the diagrams also im glad i took it apart because the drive pully for the motor i could slide off with my hand and one of the terminals wiggled inside the motor.

as-well as pictures of the original wiring and board

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These usually only came in orders of 30, which is not enough to do what I finally achieved in this little video. I had to record that final piece going in place.

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I found a real neat video that shows you how to make a collet closer for cheap for a South Bend.

I also recently got into collets because my work place has 1 lathe with a 3 jaw chuck and every other lathe is a Hardinge or Lagun turn master with collets. When I was in my machine trades class, we had one collet lathe, and I always hated it because it was so different. Which is now very ironic because all we have is collets, however I did learn that collets are used because of very small run out. I hated indicating 4 jaw chucks because of it being so finicky to get perfect, but the reason you use a 4 jaw is that it can spin more true than a 3 jaw self centering. Which odds are I would have liked collets more if I knew the advantage of collets over chucks. I recently learned this and found it very fascinating and wanted to share.

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"BaCk In My DaY We DiDnT hAvE MiCs. We UsEd ArE BaRe HaNdS AnD HeLd 6 DeCiMaL PlAcEs. We DiDnT hAvE CoOlaNt We WoUlD Spit and Blow on IT."

i poke fun but Listen to the old timers, tho, they know what they're talking about.

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For real, the seminar was Super cool, I didn't know the applications of Swiss and its miniature tooling. It can hold some crazy tolerances and do some crazy operations and parts. I Highly suggest Looking into Swiss

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Ok bois so my tractor lathe which i have been working on has el problemo. so i hooked it up with a new Belt because the old one was roached. and connected her up to 110V (yes i know 220 is optimal etc.) i did it just to see if the motor is brokey. it runs but its like its turning on and off, it spins up then stops then spins up. kinda like a dude at a drag race (revvvvvvvv pause revvvvvv). its rather odd and i think the motor is bad because on the motor it says PH-1 which is single phase and 115-220. so theoretically it should work just fine. So if the motor is in fact broken what are my options? ive read forms of people taking south bend 9" lathes and hooking up VFD's. which im not against using a VFD, but i would like to keep it as close to original if i can Thanks.

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Did the boss say you needed steel toed boots for work. But you're on a budget? Well, do we have the product for you!! To save on cost, it's made of aluminum to be lighter weight or some shit, I dunno. Just buy it ---- damn, I'm a great businessman

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I know It's made out of chinesium, but for $20 it will work for light work holding parts. Also, I'm not dead I'm just really busy with other stuff including a promotion at work, this week ill be OD grinding. However, there will be no posts because odds are everything ill be grinding will be covered under the trade secret category. Cheers all, stop reading this and go make some chips!!!

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comparison to original paint job

First off I am enjoying the tractor green, secondly I am getting a lot closer to finishing the lathe. I am going to work on redoing the electrical, I am trying to figure out what box I want to replace it with, purely because the fuse box is rather outdated and looks rather sketchy.

If you have any idea on what box I should use, feel free to drop a comment.

After the electronics and the belt are replaced, I plan to redo the fiberglass gearbox cover (yes I know there is paint on it, I will fix it later) I'm just trying to think about the best way to clean up fiber glass without inhaling yummy glass fibers. i am also very glad I took apart the lathe to paint and clean it, it moves a lot smoother now and has brand-new oil Then after all of that I should be making some chips!!!

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From the Alec Steele YouTube channel today - I've definitely made that nervous laugh before.

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When I went to go buy my what can only be described as my sexy tractor lathe (my South Bend I'm restoring) he had a 48" Bridgeport mill he wanted for $450 or best offer, it's super rusty and as any knee mill weights a metric fuck ton of 1,800 lbs. I thought about buying it on the spot, but I currently don't have space in the barn. And my tractor cannot lift it, however he said he would load it into my truck and I have a relative that can store it for me while I work on it and my relative has a neighbor that has a soup'd up tractor that could unload it. So here the question, is it worth buying? It needs a lot of work and is super rusty, it does have a pump in the back compartment as well as the motor was swapped with a 110v motor that appears to have a lamp cord soldered on (which I would swap the motor out) and it has all the 3 phase switches and accessory except the handle for the knee. It would need a lot of work and would be at least a few months of work. Also on a finale note, the blue mill for the 50-60s is for sale for $2,500 at my work which should I save up for it or buy this rust bucket? Cheers!!

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I have been spending the day scrubbing with scotch bright then using IPA and lightly sanding the metal to add grooves for the paint. I am using Town and Country olive green automotive and tractor paint. Furthermore, I have spent a few days thinking what color I wanted to paint the lathe and settled on olive green, purely because I wanted to paint it a color that was not stock but not too flashy. I've seen people paint them 60s blue or Massey Red, and they were both too bright for my liking. Anyway, these are the only things I have painted so far, I taped all the important parts off to make sure paint doesn't affect the precision of the lathe. Although from a machinist from work said I got a good deal the lathe won't be able to hold insane tolerances which it was made between 1910-1947, so I wasn't expecting Swiss lathe levels of precision, but I digress. It can do what I want it to do, and it's a fun project and helps me learn more about how a lathe works.

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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works to c/machinist@sh.itjust.works
 
 

this screw driver i bought from the same guy i bought my lathe. i just thought it was so neat!!!

it pops out then has a swivel mechanism and 3 bit choices big flat head, small Flathead and Philps and it ratchets aswell says on it "Dearborn Machine Tool DIV USA PAT. NO 2.662.568"

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philps

ratchet mechanism #

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Ive been working on the lathe in my free time. i have used lots of scotch bright that is now very dim. and have put the recommended iso 98 lubricant in the oil spots and it has gotten a lot smoother. lots of rust have been removed and and getting closer to using my lathe, im pretty sure that this lathe has sat in a barn for quite some time because of all the caked mud/dirt on it.

a few questions for fellow machinists, my GE motor runs on 220 single phase, i have a few GE motors that have 3/4 and 1hp motors at my Grandmothers, would it we worth while to upgrade the motor? its currently 1/2HP i also don't remember if there 110 Single phase which if i do change the motor id like it to run on standard wall power. even though i may loose some torque and i can wire up 220 where i plan to put the lathe.

Secondly the main flat belt is shot does anyone know where to find a good replacement?

also i have rust on the ways and have lightly used scotch bright fine pads as many machinist forms have recommended to remove most of it but there still seams to be rust, how would you recommend cleaning the ways without nuking precision/ destroying the ways? thanks for the help!!

the gears are MINT!!!

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So from my new to me but old lathe has a cabinet that has a lot of the accessory's. one of which is what i believe to be the original Manuel for the 3 jaw chuck. its written in German and English and i though it was rather neat, feel free to look!

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so as of south bends website, it says that the model number is at the end of the ways by the tail stock. after cleaning the ways off with IPA i found the model number but every place i look including http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=1617&tab=5 . Which is rather odd i don't know if its before 1920 which is when they started serial number naming scheme but im no rocket doctor.

The serial is 34873NCR9

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so i have spent the last week hunched over my computer/phone to find a crispy lathe for the taking. and finally after much searching i found a garage sale that was happening at 8am and ending at one. I WOKE UP AT 5AM!! just to make sure i could be ready and up at the garage sale at 8am. i show up im the only one there at 8, i asked how much for the lathe he said $450 he had no arguments from me. AND HE LOADED IT WITH A FORKLIFT, which a lot of other Facebook lathe sellers want YOU to load it. which these things are heavy as balls. i will be posting progress on restoration which will take a while Cheers to my new LATHE!!!!

also im on like 4ish hours of sleep so my grammar kinda shit

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I found this on FB marketplace and thought about buying it, but it's missing the control head (speed control buttons). And it doesn't have power feed/single turn threading. But if you need a toolmaker lathe or want to convert into a heavy duty CNC its also very far away from where I live, so first come first serve. Here's the link https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/257877090432295/

I know this is technically advertisement, but I thought if somebody looking for a deal and is smart enough to fix it, they might as well have their chance at it, also the lady knows very little I told her the model just to help her out.

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I saw some clay sculpting tools and started thinking it would be sweet to cut metal with something like that. The tools I saw are apparently called pottery ribbon tools, so more of a ribbon than a wire then.

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Evidently, Mattel made a toy in the 50s for a wood lathe. Sadly no South Bend, but thought it was neat Cheers!

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