I have no release the first pre-releases of the Haveno app, you're welcome to visit the home page to download the binary, please be aware the first build collected telemetry over tor, and fails if for some reason you're not connected, if you're not comfortble with any telemetry being collected you can follow the guide in the documentation on Haveno building fro source, where telemetry is already removed.

We just use telemetry to report errors, that's all, it help greatly in detecting issues the user doesn't immediately see.

Perhaps at some point I'll address the drama, but I'm more inclined to fixed and bugs you might have for the meantime, I've released most of you are actually having trouble with with getting past the on-boarding stage, I have fixes for both of those coming up today so you will see a working app where you can login and pot trades today again this will just be from Android and Linux and then in few days .

Here is the transcription of the Monero part (transcribed manually, so there may be typos).

Tucker Carlson: The most frustrating part from my perspective is the inability to use cryptocurrency, apparently, with any privacy. I mean that is the core promise, you know, I earned the money, didn't do anything wrong and I'd like to buy something that's sort of no one's business. Whether I'm buying it or not and I would like to do that in privacy. I don't think that's a weird thing to want, it's a human thing to want. Is that possible? Is my question, is it now possible to conduct any kind of business with crypto anonymously?

Roger Ver: So in the early days everybody thought Bitcoin was basically anonymous and people treated it that way, and then websites came up that were selling things that the governments might not necessarily you to buy and people were using Bitcoin for that because they thought it was basically anonymous, and later on we found out that it wasn't anonymous at all. But additional steps were taken to make Bitcoin even less anonymous, and today most people are just using custodial wallets which are, you know, it's not even a wallet it's just an account and it's no more private than your Bank of America or PayPal account, and in fact it's even less private than those things because anybody can take a look at the blockchain and see what's there.

But luckily there's other cryptocurrencies out there that do give people more privacy, so there's things like Monero which most people are now using if they want some privacy. But there's even more exciting technologies and coins out there, there's another one called Zano, that allows anybody to create their own privacy token in which nobody can see what's going on. And if you really want to get the three letter agencies upset, or governments upset, there's a project called Confidental Layer, which is creating a bridge from Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, and Ethereum, on to Zano, so you can take Bitcoin with no privacy at all, or Ethereum with no privacy at all, and brdige it permissionlessly with no custodian and no central point of attack onto Zano, and when it's on the Zano you have very very strong privacy with that as well, so I think that's gonna make a whole lot more privacy come to entire cryptocurrency ecosystem.

But governments are gonna hate that, like Monero that I mentioned before, it's preemptively banned from being listed on most exchanged and in most of the world at this point, and that's simply because governments have much less of an ability to spy on people that are using things like Monero or Zano, and that's why I'm a big fan of things like Monero or Zano today.

And in fact today, I would be embarrassed to promote... I am embarrassed to promote Bitcoin to people today because the transactions are slow, expensive, unreliable, and you have no privacy. I'd be proud to promote something like a Monero or Zano or ZCash or ZCoin or any of these privacy tools out there because those are the ones that provide more individual control to people and more privacy and more economic freedom to people over the world.

People are claiming that Bitcoin is freedom money, but I'm really afraid that they're literally building the financial prison walls around themselves. Like if you look at what's going on El Salvador, everybody is excited about Bitcoin there, but they're all using custodial accounts that the government can see every single transaction you're making and they can freeze your account at any time, that's the exact opposite of economic freedom, that's economic government control. So anybody that's paying attention should be really really concerned about this and they should be advocating the use of cryptocurrencies in which individuals can actually have control of their own money and have control over their own lives and their own destiny. Maybe that'll be Bitcoin thanks to this new technology called Cofidental Layer that bridges it onto Zano, but I don't know what it's going to be, but we need to be really really careful because, you know, it could wind up that we've before we know it and before we realize it we built the financial prison walls around us and it's too late to get out and too late to escape, so let's be aware of this today, and you know, watch out.

In the EU, they are voting on Chat Control now. This is deciding if they'll make encrypted chats illegal. This has huge effects for VPNs & Monero.

In the US, Chinese hackers have infiltrated the phone lines, And the FBI is telling ordinary Americans to encrypt their chats.

New Article: https://simplifiedprivacy.com/eu-thugs-chat-control/us-thugs-promote-encryption.html

Everyone in the EU should be pushing their politicians on this issue, as it definitely affects Monero in the EU.

For years, I've been unable to let go of the vision of creating the simplest payment-interface possible.

I couldn't find the required specialists to outsource some challenging parts of my initial design.

Now, thanks to a discussion with the developer of XmrSigner - plus the interest of someone specialized in FPGA's, I realized that I could create a major part of the functionality and, from there, follow a clear path forward.

Please feel free to review the linked CCS-draft - any workable feedback is welcome!

MoneroTopia Conf debrief and BTC TKVR Privacy Magazine with Vlad Costea (MT 333)

TODAY'S 🎙SHOW: In this episode of MoneroTalk Douglas Tuman welcomes back Vlad, an early Bitcoiner and a Monero enthusiast, for a candid discussion on the latest developments in the Monero community, crypto culture, and the broader privacy-tech landscape. They discuss the debate over digital gold vs. digital cash, what has changed about Bitcoin culture, and buying nostalgic Nintendo gear with Monero. Tune in to hear about highlights from the recent MoneroTopia conference, updates about XMR Bazaar marketplace, and Vlad's new Privacy Magazine Project.

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The US Department of the Treasury issued a semiannual regulatory agenda on August 16, 2024, proposing a revised definition of “money” to include cryptocurrencies and other digital assets. This redefinition essentially brings cryptocurrencies under the same legal and regulatory framework as traditional fiat currencies; they will now be subject to regulations like the Bank Secrecy Act (BSA) and Anti-Money Laundering (AML).

It seems more like a move to level the regulatory playing field between digital assets and fiat currency. And close chasm that exists between both regulatory wise.

But is that all to it? Is it feasible? Will it work? These are questions that need answers.

Crypto operates in regulatory gaps that needs to be closed

This seems to be what the U.S. Treasury believes. Its agenda introduces stringent reporting requirements for financial institutions dealing with cryptocurrency transactions, with the aim of closing regulatory gaps that have allowed some crypto activities to occur outside traditional oversight.

• Financial institutions must now maintain detailed records of all cryptocurrency transactions. This includes identifying the parties involved, recording the transaction value, and noting the nature of the transaction.
• Similar to existing regulations for fiat currencies, any suspicious activities involving cryptocurrencies must be reported to the Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN). This includes large transactions exceeding $10,000, frequent transfers, or any patterns of behaviour that may indicate money laundering or other illegal activities.
• The revised regulations will place greater emphasis on cross-border cryptocurrency transactions, which will now be subject to stricter reporting and monitoring. These rules, akin to those governing international wire transfers of fiat currency, are expected to encourage more cooperation between global regulatory bodies.

What are the potential benefits of closing these gaps?

One of the primary benefits of the new regulations is the increased transparency they bring to the cryptocurrency market. By requiring detailed reporting and tracking of crypto transactions, these regulations can help illuminate the flow of funds and uncover illicit activities, such as money laundering and fraud.

For example, if crypto exchanges must disclose transaction details, it becomes easier to identify suspicious patterns and ensure that funds are not used for illegal purposes. This transparency can help build trust with investors and the general public, leading to a more stable and credible market.

The regulatory changes are also expected to improve the security of cryptocurrency transactions. By implementing stringent compliance measures, financial institutions can better protect users from fraudulent activities and cyber threats. For example, exchanges may be required to adopt advanced cybersecurity measures and conduct regular audits to safeguard their systems. This increased focus on security will not only protect individual investors but also help secure the broader financial system against disruptions caused by hacks or breaches.

Aligning cryptocurrencies with established financial regulations could contribute to greater financial stability. By integrating digital assets into the traditional financial system, the new rules can help reduce systemic risks and prevent market manipulation. Clear regulatory guidelines may help mitigate the volatility that has historically plagued the cryptocurrency market, as they can prevent unregulated or opaque trading practices. In the long run, this regulatory clarity could encourage more institutional investors to enter the market, bringing with them greater capital and stability.

Another potential benefit of these regulations is improved consumer protection. By holding cryptocurrency exchanges and wallets to higher standards of transparency, the new rules will ensure that users are fully informed about the risks and fees associated with digital asset transactions. This could protect users from unexpected costs or fraudulent schemes, increasing their confidence in using digital currencies.

What does this mean for the future of money?

If successful, this integration could lead to a future where digital assets are not just alternative currencies but operate seamlessly alongside fiat in everyday transactions. This may create new hybrid financial products, expand consumer choices, and accelerate financial innovation.

However, crypto doesn’t exactly fit neatly into our current definition of money. It has its quirks and differences that make it different from what we know and truly using it in the best way possible would require that we update our definitions of money. So there will be a problem will this move by the U.S. Treasury.

One of the most significant concerns is the impact on privacy and anonymity, which have been central to the appeal of many cryptocurrencies. As digital assets are redefined as “money” and subjected to stringent reporting requirements, transactions may become less private. This could deter users who value the anonymity offered by cryptocurrencies like Monero or Zcash. Striking a balance between regulatory oversight and user privacy will be critical in maintaining crypto’s unique appeal.

If we assume the Treasury could successfully achieve its aim, the road to regulatory parity is fraught with challenges. One immediate concern is the cost of compliance. Market participants will be required to invest in advanced technologies to track and report transactions. Smaller firms, such as boutique exchanges, may find these costs prohibitively high, leading to increased operational expenses or even forcing them out of the market. Larger firms with more resources, like major exchanges, will likely dominate, which could reduce market competition and diversity.

On the other hand, traditional financial institutions will need to adapt their systems to accommodate cryptocurrency transactions, a task that requires significant investment in new technologies and infrastructure. Cryptocurrencies, being decentralized and often anonymized, do not fit neatly into existing financial frameworks. Incorporating them into traditional financial systems will likely involve developing or adopting new tools, such as blockchain analytics platforms, to ensure compliance with the new regulatory standards.

Also, achieving global alignment will be critical to the success of the Treasury’s efforts. Cryptocurrencies are borderless by nature, often transacted across jurisdictions with different legal frameworks. Without coordinated international regulations, regulatory arbitrage will emerge—users and institutions will shift activities to countries with less stringent rules.

It will also place undue burdens on financial institutions trying to comply with both local and international regulations. For example, while one country may adopt strict regulations for cryptocurrency reporting, another may have more lenient or unclear rules. If one country enforces strict rules on cryptocurrency transactions while a neighbouring country adopts a more lenient approach, individuals and businesses could exploit these differences to bypass oversight. The end result would be creating loopholes that undermine the very regulations meant to bring transparency and security to the market.

Final Thoughts

The U.S. Treasury’s attempt to redefine money by including digital assets represents a significant step toward bridging the gap between crypto and fiat. However, the challenges of implementation—privacy concerns, compliance costs, and global coordination—highlight the complexities involved. How the Treasury plans to solve them is worth watching because if it succeeds we might have to update our understanding of money and crypto. The next steps in implementing this framework will be crucial in determining whether this move was well thought out or not.

From: https://coinmarketcap.com/community/articles/67560e886e4ee6540d66072d/

The Monero Research Lab (MRL) has decided to recommend that all Monero node operators enable a ban list

https://github.com/Boog900/monero-ban-list/blob/main/ban_list.txt

• Download the ban list and:

./monerod --ban-list

🧐 https://gist.github.com/Rucknium/76edd249c363b9ecf2517db4fab42e88

I have a written a blog post on how Monero uses Cryptography (ECDH, Pedersen Commitments, Schnorr Signatures, Ring Signatures etc) to add privacy & anonymity on the blockchain

https://risencrypto.github.io/Monero/

I have covered most of the cryptography used except for RangeProofs (Bulletproofs) which I plan to cover later in a separate post.

Do let me know if you find any mistakes or if something isn't clear.

By u/HenryDaHorse on r/monero

Monero Hits Two-Year High of $211 as Privacy Coin Market Sees Surge Following Tornado Cash Court Ruling

Monero surged to $211.07 earlier today, its highest value since May 2022, before settling at $205.05. The coin saw a 17.8% increase in just one day and has risen 30.6% over the past week. Monero's price spike comes as privacy coins across the market have experienced significant gains. The entire sector has risen over 12% in the last 24 hours, with coins like Haven seeing a 217% rise, Verge up 188%, and Zcash climbing 27.5%. Smaller privacy tokens like Iridium and Haven have also seen major gains, reflecting growing interest in the privacy coin market. This surge is linked to a recent U.S. Fifth Circuit Court ruling, which overturned the U.S. Treasury's sanctions on the coin mixer Tornado Cash. The court ruled that Tornado Cash’s immutable smart contracts could not be classified as property, thus exempting them from sanctions. The ruling has been a major victory for privacy advocates and blockchain developers. In response, Tornado Cash's TORN token surged from around $3.60 in November to nearly $18, even briefly reaching $33.64.

Monero and other privacy coins use cryptographic techniques such as zk-SNARKs and ring signatures to protect transaction privacy. These coins are considered more private than traditional cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, where transaction details are publicly accessible. While privacy coins are praised for offering anonymity similar to cash, they face significant regulatory scrutiny. Governments and law enforcement have raised concerns that their privacy features could enable illegal activities. As a result, privacy coins like Monero have been delisted from major exchanges, including Binance and Kraken.

Despite these challenges, Monero remains the leader in the privacy coin space, with its market cap far exceeding that of other privacy coins. Over the past month, Monero has risen 21%, maintaining its position as the largest privacy coin by market capitalization. In addition to its price jump, technical indicators show strong bullish momentum for Monero, with its Directional Movement Index (DMI) reaching 41.4, signaling that buyers continue to dominate. However, rising selling pressure suggests this upward trend could slow, with the next resistance level around $217.

Across the board, the price action for privacy coins has been driven by the growing interest in decentralized, anonymous transactions. In addition to Monero, other privacy coins like Dash, Verge, and Zcash have posted strong weekly gains. Dash, in particular, surged by 167% in November. Ongoing market interest in privacy coins reflects increasing demand for more secure and private cryptocurrency options, following the regulatory developments surrounding Tornado Cash.

From: https://coinmarketcap.com/academy/article/monero-hits-two-year-high-of-dollar211-as-privacy-coin-market-sees-surge-following-tornado-cash-court-ruling

https://unstoppableswap.net / https://github.com/UnstoppableSwap/core makers (i do not mean a SW developers, but swap providers) seems to have swap markup (assuming a fee) of around 3% which is too expensive and along with the limits on amount of traded coin pretty unusable IMO. Am I missing any makers or source for it which allows near zero fees/markup? Why such makers are not available (by default)?

I am currently using RetoSwap https://github.com/retoaccess1/haveno-reto which allowed me to place and complete the BTC and ETH exchange to XMR at 0% fee. (only paying regular Monero tx fee for a temporary custody)

How to setup an UnstoppableSwap maker? Is it this https://github.com/UnstoppableSwap/core/blob/master/dev-docs/asb/README.md . I do not see any easy to understand tutorial for layman which would tell me the requirements (evaluate the cost) + be easily understandable.

Today is a very sad day. Apparently, cake wallet has made the asenine decision to abandon their fdroid repository for this other app store called accrescent Which is a centralized store very focused on security but has a central point of failure and can pull apps at any time they wish for any reason or no reason at all or succumb to government take down requests.

Edit: A direct quote from a chat from tux on the cake wallet team.

"Maybe I didn't make it clear enough the reason we abandoned it was because it stopped letting us update. It broke, and we haven't been able to fix it and don't care enough too"

Edit 2: Some more color was given on the issue in today's Monerotopia episode and apparently it has something to do with a flutter update that could not be avoided but caused breaking issues. I will say that I hope they can re-establish the repository in the future.

Any reason why it happens now instead of when all the major cryptos went up?

I don’t understand the market 😵, just seems like trading bots doing their thing

XMR surges past $200. Up 15% today!

But I argue that Monero is worth more than the KYC exchanges say. And I'm looking to prove that by offering great discounts with solid legal systems.

Google's Official Store just ENDED their Black Friday sale, They now charge $799 for a new Pixel 9

But Simplified Privacy goes even lower: just $580 (in XMR)

You pick: still sealed in the box or flash GrapheneOS Black, White, or Wintergreen, 128G storage, Google's 1-year warranty,

With XMR up so much, and our price down so low, This is a slam dunk win for you.

Reach out to me, https://simplifiedprivacy.com/contact.html

On XMRBazaar: https://xmrbazaar.com/listing/JFHe/

Plus PGP-backed receipt against our deposit, https://simplifiedprivacy.com/how-pgp-insurance/index.html

Monerochan Token: A Trojan Horse for Promoting Monero

Hello Monerochads,

We understand that the Monero community values privacy and utility over hype and speculation. But the reality is, the meme cycle is here. Every bull run brings a wave of speculative mania, and projects fueled by absurd ideas and flashy memes dominate attention. Instead of ignoring this, we’re proposing a way to use it to our advantage: Monerochan Token ($MONEROCHAN).

This project isn’t just another cash grab or speculative distraction. It’s a Trojan Horse, designed to bring more attention to Monero, onboard new users, and provide funding for tools that benefit the community.

Who’s Behind This?

We’re the Based Money Collective, a team of long-time Monero community members who have built various projects—both for profit and not-for-profit—within the crypto space. To confirm our authenticity, we’ve reached out to the moderators at monero.town with our Monero nyms.

This project isn’t about us; it’s about the Monero community and using its creativity, memes, and culture to attract new users to Monero.

Why Monerochan Token?

1. Reaching New Audiences

   • Let’s face it: the average crypto speculator isn’t going out of their way to buy Monero because they don’t understand its value or importance. Privacy needs a hook, and $MONEROCHAN is that hook. This token reaches people who otherwise wouldn’t care about Monero or even know it exists.

2. Leveraging Speculative Mania

   • Speculation drives interest, and rising prices bring attention. This project uses clown-world speculation to draw eyes to Monero, growing awareness through the meme cycle.

3. Building Tools for Monero

   • The attention generated by $MONEROCHAN will help us build critical tools for Monero’s ecosystem integrating with web3.
     • XMR Swap Service: A vending machine-like service where users can send XMR and receive $MONEROCHAN (or other tokens) in return.
     • XMR–ERC20 Atomic Swaps: We’re researching the existing atomic swap code base to create a deployable front end, allowing seamless swaps between XMR and ERC-20 tokens.

• Privacy friendly eth wallet: In a world dominated by mobile wallets we want to provide some of our personal tools for interacting with web3 in an opsec safe manner.

4. Community Growth
   • The more that Monerochan Token gains traction, the more it brings new users into Monero’s ecosystem. Many people are drawn to Monero through curiosity sparked by memes and culture, and this token amplifies that effect.

What’s in It for Monero?

Monero works as advertised, and its adoption in real-world markets is something to be proud of. But the lack of price appreciation has drawbacks. Here’s how more attention benefits the community:

1. Boosting Hashrate

   • A higher price makes mining Monero more attractive, increasing the network’s hashrate and security.

2. Code Contributions

   • More eyes on Monero’s code base mean more opportunities for innovation and improvements.

3. Funding Research & Development

   • Increased attention and community involvement can fund crucial advancements in Monero’s technology.

4. Real-World Utility

   • A higher price means more people holding and using Monero, which boosts its adoption in markets and enhances its utility as digital cash.

Tokenomics & Distribution

• Max Supply: 1,337,000,000 $MONEROCHAN
• Fair Launch: 100% fair distribution, with liquidity locked forever to ensure no rugs.
• Current Market Cap: Under $1 million

We’ve reserved a bag of tokens for the Monero community. Post your Ethereum address, and we’ll send you $MONEROCHAN for free—no strings attached, no money required. All we ask is that you don’t cash it out as a quick grab—hold it, support the project, and help us grow Monero’s visibility.

Roadmap

Phase 1: Soft Launch

• Distribute airdrops to the Monero community and targeted groups, including 4chan’s Monero General thread, to build early interest.

Phase 2: Initial Release

• Burn a significant portion of whale-held tokens to create scarcity and build confidence in the tokenomics. The team burned 25% of the supply yesterday.
• List $MONEROCHAN on all major decentralized exchange (DEX) aggregators, kicking off a marketing push to reach a broader audience.

Phase 3: Monerochan NFT Drop (April 2025)

• Launch the first Monerochan NFT collection, requiring $MONEROCHAN tokens for purchase.

Phase 4: Continued Development

• Develop a “vending machine” service, enabling users to exchange XMR for $MONEROCHAN seamlessly.
• Research and implement MONEROCHAN–XMR atomic swaps, laying the groundwork for smooth ERC20 atomic swaps.
• Release a second Monerochan NFT set, expanding the utility and engagement for $MONEROCHAN holders.

How to Get Involved

1. Claim Free Tokens – No Strings Attached

Post your Ethereum address, and we’ll send you $MONEROCHAN tokens for free. No strings attached, no investment required. This is our way of ensuring the Monero community gets ground-floor access to this project.

However, we ask that you don’t just sell it for a quick cash grab. The only way this project succeeds in bringing more attention to Monero is by increasing its market cap. The more $MONEROCHAN is held by strong hands within the community, the less selling pressure there is, which makes it easier for the market cap to grow.

2. Join the Community

• Website: monerochan.biz
• Telegram: t.me/monerochanToken
• Twitter: @MonerochanToken

3. Buy More Tokens

Monerochan Token is live on Ethereum and trading on Uniswap.

• Uniswap Contract Address: 0x3f7dB133aFf2F012C8534b36aB9731fe9Ee7bd43

Steps to Buy:

1. Download an Ethereum wallet (e.g., Metamask).
2. Swap Monero into Ethereum.
3. Go to Uniswap and purchase $MONEROCHAN.

A Community-Centric Mission

We know this project won’t appeal to everyone in the Monero community, and that’s okay. But for those who see the potential in using speculative mania to drive real-world adoption, Monerochan Token is a tool to amplify Monero’s message.

This is a side quest with real benefits: more users, more tools, and more visibility for Monero. Let’s use clown-world speculation to strengthen what truly matters: privacy, decentralization, and digital cash that works.

Stay based,
Based Money Collective

It looks like you can both buy and sell XMR via cash by mail on this exchange. Does anyone know anything about it? It's not listed on kycnot.me and I don't see it mentioned here or in the Reddit r/monero sub.

Hey there! I want to get some Monero in exchange for cash via post.

I used Localmonero in the past, and I have my wallet.

But now I want to use Haveno and get XMR from there.

Interestingly there is still no Flatpak, so I compiled the app from source and ran the haveno-desktop app.

I think I understood that the Haveno application and devs dont bundle a network. Instead they say "use a 3rd party installer" (for a network? P2P I guess).

So the network is not just a list of connections and Haveno is a peer, but it needs an additional application?

What networks do you know that are good? Looking for something in Europe.

I also read that Haveno is now "mainnet ready". What does this mean?

I'm just starting to learn Haveno. When you hover the cursor over the seller, all you get is a "Maker's onion address". I realize that the whole purpose of Haveno is for both buyers and sellers to be anonymous, but I'd be more likely to use the service if I recognized the name of a trusted seller from localmonero. I know several of them are trading on Haveno, but I can't tell who is who. So I guess I'm asking if there is a way to find the trusted seller's online moniker if they care to divulge it for the purpose of buyers being able to choose a seller based on their localmonero reputation.

Haveno-Reto has become RetoSwap with a new X handle and a new SimpleX room. It would be best to remove the old SimpleX room and join the new one. At the moment the website is still haveno-reto.com but I expect that to be changed soon.

Edit: new site is live at RetoSwap.com