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UK Labour are too Tory for me. (med-mastodon.com)

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UK Labour are too Tory for me.
I've threatened that they've lost my vote. (edit)
On LGBTQIA, specifically trans rights.
On their plans for the NHS.
On their plans for health and wealth inequalities in the UK.
On their plans for the relationship the UK has with Europe.
They have to be less Tory to get my vote back.
It's not acceptable that to not vote Tory, we have to settle for what they offer. They assume their position is acceptable.
If they correct their position, I'll reconsider
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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At this point lib Dems are probably left of labour with their policies, given labours recent downturn

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

I mean I believed that and voted for Clegg and then he turned out to be a toffee tory

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, this is just untrue.

They are a centre-right party. They effectively represent Tories who didn't want Brexit. They may talk a big game and make big promises, such as UBI. But they also made promises when they went into coalition with the Conservative party, and once in power they fell in line.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

UBI isn't even necessarily a leftist policy. Apparently Richard Nixon even considered it!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

It's not inherently leftist but it is a big promise.

Not unlike tuition fees.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Just incredible that the Lib Dems are still trying this argument.

Apart from the reality of their platforms, Ed Davey was literally a cabinet member in a Tory government and was knighted for this service by a Tory Prime Minister.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apart from the reality of their platforms, their Ed Davey was literally a cabinet member in a Tory government and was knighted for this service by a Tory Prime Minister.

Well the fact that when the Tories got a majority of their own they reversed most of what he did in office should be in an indication that he's not actually one of them.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

So his record is five years of voting for every Tory policy and zero long term achievements?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right, so it should be alarming that labour has worse policies than that, right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

IDK what metric you're using for 'worse'. Sure would be alarming if they did, but they don't.