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Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I must have imagined those American bombs dropped by American made planes being sent by Biden.

He asked Netanyahu nicely to not carpet bomb Gaza with them. That absolves him of it all.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I must have missed the part where Biden was put in charge of Israel's military. You .ml folks are simpletons. 🙄

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Come on, don't act like you don't know what he mean. He just mean thst Biden he is responsible by giving arms and diplomatic protection so Israel can bomb gaza

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I know what he means and he's wrong and so are you. Israel bombed Gaza. Full stop. Biden never had the power to stop it. Want to be angry at someone, choose the military industrial complex at the heart of America's economy. The president only works for them, no matter his name or party.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah he have no power at all to the point of bypassing the congress to give melitary aid to israel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well thank Jesus it's all fixed now then, with Biden gone.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Nobody said that idiot. You gave dumb excuses of biden support to israel. So stop acting like you ever cared about palestinians

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

🙄 so in your little mind, Biden says "fuck you Israel. Not a single bullet more." And magically Israel stops bombing because they.... Ran out of bombs and ammo?

It would have accomplished exactly nothing. Israel makes their own decisions. Nothing Biden could have done would have stopped anything. If you think otherwise you are simply naive.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look at how you contradict yourself. You claim that biden can't do anything because Israel make their own decisions and that the military controlling presidents but then say because trump is going to make Israel do worse things to gazan. Please stop act like you are smarter than everybody who disagree with you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Answer the question.

And stop putting words in my mouth. I never said Trump had any power in Israel either.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

To answer your question yes, i think so. Even if it doesn't it is the right and moral thing to do.

You said that presidents has no power biden was president and now trump is. How can't you not understand somw basic deductive reasoning ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Neither Trump nor Biden controls bombs in Gaza. You do have a point that it would have been the moral choice to take a stand. My point is that it wouldn't have made a difference in reality. I'm not happy about that but it doesn't change the reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Then you're ignorant of both history and geopolitics.

Israel is a client state, full stop, of the US. Reagan made one phone call and ended the war in Lebanon.

In fact, Israel institutionally, does not know how to end wars, because they've never done it. The US has always ended their wars for them.

Israel has received a full third of all foreign aid the US has ever given out. It isn't a state on it's own. It ceases to exist and will go bankrupt almost immediately without the US.

Your whole 'Biden couldn't force them to stop' schtick is either bad faith or ignorance of every aspect of the history of that region.

There is a reason that Trump didn't stop foreign aid to Israel and Egypt when he froze it everywhere else. Neither state would continue to exist if he hadn't.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Age took him. You are pretending to want something you cant have, cranakis. biden was practically drooling into the camera in the last year of his term, and was 'sundowning' hard. He wont live another 4 years, much less be able to perform any job.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If Israel relies on US weapons, then yes the US has the power to stop it, by not supplying the weapons.

We know the weapons are going to be used for genocide. Supplying them is as good as pulling the trigger ourselves.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As abhorent as it was transferring the sales of weapons to IL it should also be made clear that Israel absolutely does not rely on the US. They can at any point go down to the next shop and get what they need. The issue is the US wants to exert it's influence in the region so will go to great lengths to be the top shop. Make no assumptions about the US being the only shop in town.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sure seems like we're the only shop in town when we stood alone with Israel in blocking the numerous UN resolutions against this genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We were a minority for sure. But UN resolutions don't mean jack anyway but I hear ya.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

UN resolutions don’t mean jack anyway

UN resolutions created the state of Israel.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Eh, was a little more than a resolution that created the state. Cmon now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You're right, it was also terrorism and the slaughter of civilians.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

There you go. You get it. UN resolution had the least impact let's be real

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No you don't get it, the president directly controls everything including the price of eggs and petroleum.

(These .ml types are as disassociated with reality as the MAGATs)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Is Trump in charge of Israel's military now because that's the only way for your comment to make any sense.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

No Netanyahu is n charge of Israel's military. That is my point.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Cranakis,

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/13/us-presidents-red-lines-israel

Eisenhauer, GHW Bush, and Reagan all stopped Israel's zionist violence dead cold with phone calls, in pretty much this exact same situation. Its well established history that you either aren't aware of or wont acknowledge-- neither possibility reflecting well on you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The US is in charge of Netanyahu.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

It's not 'trust me, bro' when it is public fucking history. It's just you being ignorant to the point that if someone sent you links they would have to be posted with 'let me google it for you'

Asking for proof when someone says the sky is blue doesn't do anything but make you look stupid or bad faith.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

make you look stupid or bad faith.

We can trust this coming from a .ml

True professionals at appearing stupid/bad faith.

I suppose if you're primary education on international military protocols comes from watching hamas strap IEDs to kids perhaps you don't understand the rigorous protocols in place.

The burden of not knowing that (while still parroting bullshit) is YOURS 🤗

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I don't need to back my words with the domain I come from.

That is a pretty pathetic response, especially when you follow it up with a made up scenario. Especially in defense of a state sponsor of terrorism.

Also, if you're going to make your money publishing Hasbara, you need to learn how to use the correct 'your'.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They can't recognize reality or their propaganda addled brains would drip out their noses.

Reading too many .ml comments is akin to eating a tub of lead based solder.