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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/53805638

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 months ago (33 children)

I'm so happy this happened. This is really a power move from China. The US was really riding the whole AI bubble. By "just" releasing a powerful open-source AI model they've fucked the not so open US AI companies. I'm not sure if this was planned from China or whether this is was really just a small company doing this because they wanted to, but either way this really damages the western economy. And its given western consumers a free alternative. A few million dollars invested (if we are to believe the cost figures) for a major disruption.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (32 children)

Socialism/Communism will always outcompete the capitalists. And they know it, which is why the US invades, topples, or sanctions every country that moves towards worker controlled countries.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You don't even realise how strong capitalism is in China.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sounds like you don’t know what “capitalism” means. Market participation exists in other economy types, too. It’s how the means of production are controlled and the profits distributed that defines capitalism vs communism.

And you don’t lift 800 million people out of poverty under capitalism. Or they’ve done a ridiculously bad job of concentrating profits into the hands of a very small few.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The issue with your original comment is that it's simplified on many levels beyond what is acceptable. China has companies working on delivering highest financial output regardless of other citizens and their rights to have fair share in produced goods. They are by no means controlled by workers (why would they accept e. g. 996?) nor creating fair rules to others economically (e.g. Taobao and their alghorims pushing many sellers to sell bellow profitable levels just to maintain visibility on their site). Put it also into wider perspective: China started to move forward in quality of life only after Deng. US system is by no means bad but it doesn't make Chinese one perfect.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I don’t think you understand how China’s economy works. Seems very clouded by anti-China propaganda.

In reality, the working class exercises a great deal of control over the means of production in China, and the 996 culture you’re referring to is in fact illegal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-58381538.amp

Again, capitalism vs communism is not defined by the existence of production/profits/markets, but how control and benefit of those systems is distributed.

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