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More than 60% of Brits want to re-join the EU with nearly the same number saying Britain was wrong to leave in the first place, a new poll shows.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

FPTP is a crime against democracy. Anyone supporting FPTP might as well admit that they don't really like democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I agree but. How else would we have done a simple yes/no poll?

Not that we should have went through with a 1% swing on something that would have such a massive impact.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

A minimum voter turnout of 50% and a two-thirds majority.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I thought you were talking about Fibre To The Premises for a second and was going to fight you.

My take, for what it's worth, is that we don't even have FPTP in the UK, we have Winner Takes All, since they don't even need to get 50% to win, they just need to be the most popular which could mean 21% of votes with four similarly-popular opponents.

WTA/FPTP asks the question "who is the most popular?"; AV asks "who can the voters agree to compromise on?"; STV asks "who best represents the voters?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My take, for what it’s worth, is that we don’t even have FPTP in the UK, we have Winner Takes All, since they don’t even need to get 50% to win

That's exactly what FPTP is - the candidate who gets the largest number of votes wins, regardless of whether their vote share is 1% or 51%. It's horribly undemocratic.