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[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The protocol doesn’t really matter when you send encrypted messages over it like Delta Chat

Maybe. My comment was based off of what i understood from the website

Signal is not private

Could you elaborate on this? haven't heard of this point (is it due to the jurisdiction on a 5 eyes country?)

SimpleX doesn’t have encrypted group chats last time I tried

It actually does now. It's a very solid choice i'd say :)

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

You need a phone number to sign up which requires identification in most countries.

Also anyone who knows your username can ping where you are at any time: https://gist.github.com/hackermondev/45a3cdfa52246f1d1201c1e8cdef6117

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are confusing privacy with anonymity. You aren't anonymous because your user is linked to a phone number, but your communications are private due to how their encryption works.

On the location attack: it is a matter of configuration and your location will be as ambiguous as thousands of miles.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Finessing the terms does not stop them demanding a phone number.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Precise language is important if you want to understand and communicate truth. It helps a lot to understand the difference between privacy and anonimity there is a scenario where a person doesn't care that an adversary knows their id, but does care about the content of their messages. In which case, differentiating tools that provide that particular service requires language to discuss it.

[–] autonomoususer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Clearly, they do care about the phone number.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 1 month ago

You are correct... Official narrative is that it helps reduce spam and bits which could be a reason.. But phone numbers linked to real ID allows spooks to maintain their surveillance regime. They get the relationship maps, if they deem you a threat, they will use Israeli spyware to breach your device and get the content

[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

They are right. Terminology is important in this discussion.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Interesting, thanks. I think SimpleX fixes a lot of signal's issues, but the only problem i have that it is funded by VC and quite new.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are open source and decentralized and indeed there are already a few forks.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

Yup that's why it seems great :) though i haven't heard of forks. I think i'll wait a little more till i switch to it, just to see if it gets itself in hot water. It's too early to tell

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah so they are just capturing users currently and will have to make return on investment later? That’s a no from me.

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah it's a shame, though i'm going to wait before switching to it to see if it gets itself into any hot water.