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Israeli troops were ordered to shoot and kill captive Israeli civilians on 7 October 2023, Israel’s then defence minister admitted this week. The order to carry out Israel’s so-called Hannibal Directive was issued “tactically” and “in various places” next to Gaza, Yoav Gallant told Israel’s Channel 12 on Thursday. “In other places it was not given, and that is a problem,” he continued.

Contrary to Gallant’s statement that the Hannibal Directive was unevenly applied in different areas, Israeli newspaper Yediot Ahronot reported in January 2024 that at midday on 7 October, an unambiguous order was given from the high command of the Israeli military to invoke the Hannibal Directive across the entire region.

In July, Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that the order “not a single vehicle can return to Gaza” was issued to the Gaza Division of the Israeli military at 11:22 am that day. But Gallant’s new statement is highly significant, as the first public admission by a contemporary Israeli minister that their troops were ordered to fire on their own people on 7 October.

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 month ago (9 children)

How many Israeli deaths lay at the feet of the IDF due to this directive?

How many Palestinian deaths happened because the Israeli citizens killed under the Hannibal Directive were used as justification for attacking Palestinians?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

They were only killed if they were already held hostage, like don’t get me wrong dying is the end all your life is just over but being held kidnapped for over a year being raped and tortured seems worse to me than just dying as I got kidnapped knowing my kidnappers got killed too.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"They wanted to die." Helluva an argument. Kudos

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I didn’t say they wanted to die I said I would rather die.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If only it had been you then, eh?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Scenario: you just had armed militants break into your home and a firefight ensued killing your dog and SO and you have been dragged into the back of a van to be held hostage with a 25% death rate and there is a group of allied soldiers

Would you rather they:

A) do nothing B) fire on the vehicle possibly injuring/killing you

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is a different scenario, though. The Hannibal directive is specifically targeting YOU, not the vehicle.

So your scenario should be more like:

You have armed militants who take you hostage, putting you in the front seat of the van

Would you rather they:

  • do nothing now, and try to rescue you when safely possible
  • shoot you in the head
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

No need to get anyone killed or hold anyone hostage, just living in this fascist world makes me wish a missile would land on me

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

False dichotomy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The only hostages who were raped and tortured are the Palestinians.

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