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    [–] Zink@programming.dev 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    The average person does not mount network drives themselves.

    I would hazard a guess that for the truly average user, booting to a desktop with Firefox and LibreOffice installed is like 90% of what they need.

    [–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    The average person does not mount network drives themselves.

    NAS is incredibly common these days. Backing up data is mainstream now. Not 100% of laypeople use NAS, of course, but many.

    [–] Zink@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

    I think both of our statements are correct.

    I bet the absolute number of laypeople using NAS is way up while the percentage of users is still tiny.

    Backups being mainstream is awesome, but for them backup means cloud and almost certainly Apple/Google/Microsoft. Even I personally still use crashplan for actual backups primarily because it’s offsite and has unlimited version retention. I might roll my own one of these days though, whether finding some cheap cloud storage or putting a small server at my parents’ house or something like that.

    [–] Yttra@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    It doesn't have to specifically be a network drive, I bumped into this exact problem with the ntfs Windows drives I didn't want to reformat after I switched. Only issue is fstab never worked after weeks of trial and error, so I had to use udisks and just elevate its permissions instead.

    [–] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 1 month ago

    I haven’t dealt with it on network drives yet, but just recently I was redoing my main machine and had to decide how to mount some big spinning drives for storing media. The graphical disk manager included with Mint, which is just gnome-disks, made it pretty quick.

    [–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I agree. It was a niche scenario.

    [–] gajahmada@awful.systems 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    https://xkcd.com/2501 to some extent.

    Yeah, Linux user can/willing to read instructions that (the important part IMO) unfamiliar to them, that's like not what average user would do.

    Most users know how to install something on Windows, they've used it since they were toddler and whether or not you think it's a better experience in Linux is irrelevant.

    Most software they need in Windows has a giant download button on the respective site, double click the downloaded file and you're done.

    99% of the time you can immediately start the program or there will be a shortcut on the desktop.

    Also, gaming. Like it or not it is a casual workload, and it's not as straightforward on Linux.

    [–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

    Exactly. The way I understand it, if they even still teach computer classes in most states, it would be under Windows anyway with maybe a Mac or Linux computer somewhere for those that dare.

    Using Linux is awesome, and I fucking love it. It still has its issues that we can actually fix, unlike in Windows where they can change it to a more shitty experience and our opinions won’t matter.

    Some people just get way too gatekeepy for some reason, and it’s been like that for so long that I was a kid and they would still have those rude attitudes towards new users.