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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Cancel culture ain't so much fun when it happens to you, is it.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually, this situation isn't about cancel culture at all. Cancel culture typically refers to public backlash resulting in personal or professional consequences for offensive or harmful behavior. What happened here seems to be a systemic decision to remove content highlighting women in STEM at NASA.

This isn’t driven by public outcry or social pressure; it’s a form of institutional erasure. There’s a big difference between being held accountable for harmful actions and having your achievements wiped out due to a policy change.

These two things shouldn’t be conflated.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you are misinformed about the nature of cancel culture — it was always a government program. Those mass account purges on Twitter over COVID "misinformation", for instance, happened explicitly at the behest of the Biden administration. It was not at all the result of public outcry.

Also, many of the claims that were made (such as the lab leak theory) did, in fact, turn out to be true.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

  1. On Cancel Culture: The term "cancel culture" typically refers to public backlash leading to personal or professional consequences for perceived offensive behavior. In the case of the NASA bio removal, it appears to be an internal policy decision, not a result of public outcry.

  2. On Government Influence and Social Media: While there have been instances where government entities have interacted with social media platforms regarding content moderation—such as the Biden administration's efforts to curb COVID-19 misinformation—this differs from "cancel culture." These actions involve governmental attempts to manage public health information, which has sparked debates about free speech and censorship.

  3. On the Lab Leak Theory: The origins of COVID-19 have been extensively debated. Agencies like the FBI and the Department of Energy have assessed, with varying degrees of confidence, that a lab leak is a plausible origin. However, this remains a separate issue from the NASA bio removal and the broader discussion of cancel culture.

Bringing up these points seems to divert from the initial discussion about the removal of a NASA bio highlighting a woman's achievements in STEM. It's essential to distinguish between institutional decisions, public backlash, and government policies.

[–] spezz 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

False equivalence. Firing someone for saying racist shit isnt the same a removing a person from a website because she is a woman.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Indeed, firing someone seems like a much more drastic measure, and as far as we can tell from the OP, Rose still has her job.

Also, this page about Women at NASA, which contains literally hundreds of articles about female scientists' achievements there has apparently not been deleted, so this doesn't look like some sort of systemic erasure to me. Perhaps her profile was simply deleted by mistake?

I tried clicking a bunch of them just to make sure they're not all dead links, and so far I haven't hit any 404s.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Take your weak attempt at trolling somewhere else.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Sadly, that stooge isn't even self aware enough to realize it's trolling. Which makes feeding trolls so, just, tedious these days. No fun in it at all!! 😡

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Huh. The only possible reason to conflate cancel culture with erasure is if you're such a shit person with truly deplorable views that being forced to just fucking be polite feels like an attack on your person.

Everyone knows the dog whistle involved here, buddy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't think I follow that train of thought. What do you think cancel culture was except the systematic erasure of people with "undesirable" viewpoints?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think I follow that train of thought.

Duh. Not being allowed to do offensive shit without consequence is obviously upsetting to you. So, yeah, of course you didn't follow a train of thought that includes common decency.

What do you think cancel culture was except the systematic erasure of people with "undesirable" viewpoints?

I think actions have consequences. I think a person who has any actual courage will accept that fact. What, do you think bigotry and prejudice shouldn't be "undesirable"? What, you afraid of just...not being an ass???

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Okay, so instead of focusing on making solid arguments, you been spending much of your time on name calling and insulting my intelligence instead. Is that what you consider common decency? Or should there be consequences for that?

Seems like a clear violation of rule 1 of this forum: "Don't throw mud. Behave like an intellectual and remember the human."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh go cry yourself a river to drown in.

Yeah, no shit I'm not "debating in good faith". Duh. Why the fuck would I bother?? Like, seriously, there's nothing clever in that "asking questions" approach.

And, if you're gonna cry about 'solid arguments', fund one yourself. Facts don't care about your feelings, remember???

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Deleting the record of a women's scientific achievements isn't the same as firing (or declining to renew a contract) of someone who's falsifying test results or just being an ass.

I wonder which person you're actually referring to. Have a few names we can "peer review"?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

this isn't cancel culture though, this is culling culture.