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83 and he's still got that dog in him.
While I feel bernie wants to save capitalism from itself rather then replace it, I have to admire the persistence. I would have died 3 deaths of despair if I would have gone through what he has. And to just watch the nation melt around you no matter what you do or say.
Bernie Sanders is a stronger man then me
Yep, he won't bite the hand that feeds him. He's a good doggy. Barks loud but when it matters he does exactly what master says.
If you look at his vote record he hasn’t bowed to anyone, even when he’s been the only senator voting against something
he’s been the only senator voting against something>
I have literally said this in another comment. He and other fake progressives do this when they are absolutely sure it will have no consequences. Not when it's possibly a close call. Pure empty virtue signaling.
I'll copy another comment on his voting habbits tho :
VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
He can speech, object, condemn or whatever he does. It’s empty words.
Just some life advice. I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish with your comment, but a fairly awful person once said: however beautiful your strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.
Really, there's nothing wrong with being an idealist but at some point you need to work with what you have.
Gabage lesser evil take if not gaslighting. This has systematically led to even worse candidates. Culminating in an actual genocider, all the same endorsed by people like precious Bernie.
This is not 'working with what you have', this is keeping that horrible system in place. People can vote 3rd party, you know how people in real democracies did. I've seen it happen plenty with hopeless parties getting 3% at first then groing every few years to eventually winning.
And it's very clear 'what I'm trying to do' since it's very obvious. Exposing Sanders for the fake progressive he is so less people fall for his BS and waste their vote.
Also I resent this loaded question as if I had some evil motive. Here's my life advice:
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I... I took the one less traveled by, and that has made all the difference."
In other words, grow some balls if you actually care and want to change something.
I don't think you're wrong, I don't think you're quite right either. I do like what you're getting at. Bernie, relatively speaking, is way better than the other candidates we can currently choose from. That's what I'm getting at, you're attacking someone on a single issue and ignoring everything else they say and do. Hardly anybody will listen to you. They're writing you off as a weird, single issue voter. Don't you think your issues would have a better shot of being addressed if there were more people like Bernie in congress? Seems like abstaining instead of choosing the lesser evil also isn't working.
Won't happen in the US unless we get some form of ranked choice voting.
Look at the last 25 years or so from the various Election wikis:
2000 - Green (Nader) 2.74%, Reform (Buchanan) 0.43%, Libertarian 0.36%, Constitution 0.09%, Natural Law 0.08%.
2004 - Reform 0.38% (Nader this time instead of Buchanan), Libertarian 0.32%, Constitution 0.12%, Green 0.10%, Peace and Freedom 0.02%, Socialist 0.01%, Socialist Workers 0.01%, Christian Freedom 0.002%.
2008 - Nader 0.56%, Libertarian 0.4%, Constitution 0.15%, Green 0.12%, America's Independent Party 0.04%
2012 - Libertarian 0.99%, Green 0.36% (Jill Stein), Constitution 0.09%, Peace and Freedom 0.05% (Roseanne Barr), Justice 0.03%, America's 0.03%.
2016 - Libertarian 3.28%, Green 1.07% (Jill Stein), Independant 0.54%, Constitution 0.15%, Socialism and Liberation 0.05%.
2020 - Libertarian 1.18%, Green 0.26% (Howie Hawkins), Reform 0.19%.
2024 - Green (Jill Stein) 0.56%, RFK Jr. 0.49%, Libertarian 0.42%.
The best shot any 3rd party had was Nader in 2000 and the Libertarians in 2016. All other races? Yeah, no. You know it's bad when you can add up ALL the 3rd parties across multiple elections and still not crack 3%.
You mean THIS house resolution 921?
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-resolution/921
H.Res.921 - Honoring the 30th anniversary of the National Guard Youth Challenge Program. 118th Congress (2023-2024)
I think I smell bullshit
NO, https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/BILLS-109hres921ih/pdf/BILLS-109hres921ih.pdf from 2006.
Nice try tho.
You've got nothing
You've got a shit attitude and folks won't listen until you fix yourself.
If they can't take the truth it's their problem. They have been screwing themselves for centuries continuing this uniparty BS and their token progressives. AOC can take over from him and they can continue for centuries more. Me personally am doing great and none of this, whoever wins anything affects me in the least. I just don't get how people can vote against their own interests. Then again there's black and latinos for Trump so there doesn't seem to be much logic in people's reasoning.
here's the truth you can't take, you're an asshole and a moron.
Fucking dumb troll
You Gaza people are getting old and your hissy fits are helping the downfall of American democracy. Please tell me, what other genocides are going on right now? what other conflicts do you know about? Ukraine is a war of self defense you muppet.
Why are you in this post at all? You're not even American. This has nothing to do with your countries politics.
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Troll
Lame and weak.
Piss baby.
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*Bye - that's the correct spelling.
Being called a fascist by a Belgian is rich, and hilarious.
Go get upset by entering a conversation that has nothing to do with you.
You certainly are.
First off, based on everything else he does - who fucking cares fr What a great way to both share your stance on an issue and garner attention for your causes - stand out. It's both harmless and clever - in American Politics even.
TF is this opinion?
Who cares about his VOTING? The only thing that actually has effect. Right, "but he SAYS what we think so well" that's what important to you? Great take.
Your claim is that "Bernie being the only one voting 'no' is virtue signaling." where my point is that if you know a vote is going to pass or fail, you might as well either stand out of use that opportunity to voice your opinion. If a vote is going to pass regardless of Bernies vote, who care if he wants to use that as a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions.
I have posted an extensive list of his horrible pro-war empire and zionist voting. Leave the " to voice your opinion....a catalyst to spread his message, ideas, and opinions." for the brochure. The only thing he's spreading is the illusion there is place for progressives in that horrible party and to keep gullible people away from 3rd parties that actually want change. End of convo
I saw that, I wasn't commenting to your entire opinion which is why I quoted the specific parts I was referring to.
That's not the message I'm getting from his talks and video blog updates. Maybe stop reading article headlines and head to the source directly to reinforce your opinion on the message he's spreading. I don't think you're here to convince people of some kind of solution or better future though. All you've done is doomsay and complain. None of your opinions address the current message he's trying to get to the people, which is that Billionaires are buying Politicians and money in Politics is a huge problem right now, and We, The People, need to voice our opinions on it or do something about it before it gets too bad.
Your Doomsaying only distracts from the current problems at hand, which I'm willing to bet you understand.
How in the hell are you hating on Bernie Sanders of all people you could hate on?
We suffer from a lack of critical thinking in America. Most people cant see past the end of their noses.
I hate hypocrites more than the ones not even pretending. This rat has just as much blood on his hands as Genocide Joe, Copmala, Trump or whoever.
lol no and its not even close
Please give examples lol
Haha what?
Just more disinformation. They'll throw anything at him in hopes that it sticks. They have no idea how to handle decades of sincere authenticity and prescience.
Here's just a small part of your great hero's decades of sincere authenticity and prescience track record, you must've missed that:
VOTED in favor of almost every US invasion in the following nations: Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia,2, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, Sudan, and Ukraine. Even parroting the regime narrative that drones ‘are sellective’ and ‘take out the people they should’ while 90% they killed are innocent people. Be a “I am 100% pro-Israel” genocide supporter. VOTES in favour of the US aid to the Zionist settler-colony every time. VOTED in favor of a resolution that “reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 . During the 2014 assault on Gaza, blatantly biased Senate resolutions S. Res 498 and S. Res 526 that fully condoned the Israeli assault and characterized it as “self-defense” were passed by unanimous consent. Although Sanders did not co-sponsor either resolution, he failed to register any formal objection (a resolution passes by unanimous consent if no objection is raised; as such, no vote is taken). To be clear, this is not the first time Sanders failed to speak up in Congress against Israel’s brutal assault of Gaza. In 2012, Sanders failed to register any objection against biased Senate resolution S. Res 599 that couched Israel’s bombing of Gaza as “self-defense” and that passed by unanimous consent; according to Human Rights organization B’Tselem, 167 Palestinians were killed, including at least 87 civilians (vs. 4 Israeli civilians). In 2009, biased Senate resolution S. Res 10 backed Israel’s assault on Gaza and yet again justified it as Israel’s “right to defend itself” without garnering any objection from Sanders (it passed by unanimous consent); according to B’Tselem, 1387 Palestinians were killed, including at least 773 civilians (vs. 3 Israeli civilians). In 2006, Sanders actually supported the brutal Israeli assault on Gaza and Lebanon during the war that killed 1191 Lebanese civilians per Amnesty International (vs. 43 Israeli civilians killed) when he VOTED Yea to House resolution H. Res 921.
You don't have to like him, but you're the one being a fucking weird freak about it.
No politician ever will ever be 100% in line with what you want. I think it's very shameful that he voted in favor of Rubio, doesn't make everything else he's done irrelevant.
Grow up.
What a waste of your time that was.
Good. Let them burn their life away.
I dunno, feels fairly productive — I got three blocks out of just one thread.
Go recycle yourself into something more useful, please.
He's never been anything other than a sheepdog for the DNC.
Lol You know it's a post-truth world when the most consistent, anti-corruption senator is the one "doing exactly what master says". Obligatory no one's perfect and we should call out bad behavior from anyone, but feel free to compare him to a more moral current US politican. Please, I'll wait...
Once again he's gonna dog anyone who supports him.