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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Ukraine is their neignbor. Being that most of Europe are also NATO members, It makes more sense to me that they be the ones to spearhead this proxy war if anyone should.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

The EU has given far more support to Ukraine than the US.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

"The EU has given far more support to Ukraine than the US."

Cite your sources.

The "EU" is not a singular country. The US is.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you for posting a source but that article suggests that the EU surpassed the US in support because we started to withhold some support mid 2023. I guess this means my comment wasn't the most apropriately timed but I'm not opposed to having a reduced support roll from when this started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here you go: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/crew8y7pwd5o

And the EU has given more to Ukraine than Texas. See, I can say stupid shit too.

GTFO, Russian troll.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Okay, person who admit's to posting "stupid shit"

"President Macron is correct, according to Kiel figures. But they suggest President Trump also has a point; the US has sent more grants, while the EU sent more loans. However, again, there are different figures out there." -Per your article

First, the source you provided isn't as clear-cut as you seem to think it is, unless you want the U.S. to engage in even more profiteering off of this proxy-war by increasing loans.

Secondly, I'm not opposed to spending less money to continue this war, so sending me articles claiming that the EU debatably spends more then the U.S. to perpetuate this war does nothing but make me feel okay about our decreasing involvement. -You guys seem to be making continued and exaggerated inferences about my position on this matter even though i've clearly stated my motivations for this position in other comments under this same thread.

GTFO, Warmonger.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nazi Germany was also Europe's neighbour. I'm sure America would have fared well just completely ignoring it until all of Europe and Russia was under nazi control. Sometimes you need to involve yourself before a problem becomes too big.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Nazi Germany was also Europe’s neighbour. I’m sure America would have fared well just completely ignoring it until all of Europe and Russia was under nazi control. Sometimes you need to involve yourself before a problem becomes too big."

I'm not sure what kind of a analogy you're trying to draw here since Russia was one of our Primary allies trying to stop Nazi Germany. Are you suggesting we form an alliance with Russia because people are suggesting I'm doing someones job for free right now and your out here trying to draw parallels to WWII as if we want to make friends with Russia.

-I have to say multiple accounts are making a hell of a lot of suggestions that i'm wrong and providing no source of information to back themselvss up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The US fucking around geopolitically is what got us this mess. The US was eager to walk over Russian security interests, despite warnings this could escalate to a war. And now Trump has spoken the quiet part out loud, that for the US this war is mainly a business opportunity, no matter who wins it in the end.

The US dropping out of supporting Ukraine should be met with sanctions and a ban of any US investment into Ukraine for thr next 100 years. Also all US owned assets needs to be seized like the Russian ones.

Neither country should be allowed to make a single Penny from rebuilding in Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The US was eager to walk over Russian security

Why do you think Russian security interests override the security interests of the countries neighboring Russia?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are calling this a proxy war between North Korea and USA. North Korea is more in USA's area of interest than that of Europe's.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Correct. This is also a proxy war with North Korea. Iran, too from what I recall.