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After a tense Oval Office encounter with Donald Trump and JD Vance, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy received a warm UK welcome, including an official audience with King Charles at Sandringham.

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer convened a defence summit with European and NATO allies to reaffirm solidarity with Ukraine, discuss unlocking frozen Russian assets, and counter the rift caused by Trump’s accusations of Zelenskyy’s ingratitude.

European leaders fear the spat endangers Western unity and peace efforts and are vowing no negotiations on Ukraine without Ukrainian involvement.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

And I'm also getting a little tired of them expecting me to be sad that this is bad for the US. A lot of the "woe is me, the US is losing influence!" Sounds almost as whiny to the non-American audience as some of the MAGA stuff about the world not being "grateful" enough for them.

The US' international influence has been a mixed blessing for a long time. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing what Europe manages to put together as a replacement. Could be a step up.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (21 children)

A lot of the "oh noes the US is losing influence" comes twofold from:

  1. General sinophobia as China is often seen as the next viable global superpower.

  2. Americans who deep down know exactly how good they've had it because of that influence and are suddenly scared that their own country could become the true corrupt, broke shithole it has always really been. We only ever had wealth because we dominated and stole it from the rest of the world.

I'm with you, US losing influence isn't a bad thing. It's only bad for US citizens, who need to get a grip on how comfortable and coddled they have really been, even if they are poor. US poor is not international poor, once again, because we stole so much wealth from the rest of the world. I say this as a US citizen who is daily disgusted by the selfishness and coddled ass attitudes of his fellow Americans.

A good example of why is how we took the worlds outpouring of compassion after 9/11 and squandered the fuck out of it by playing world police and killing untold millions in the middle east and Europe has been dealing with the aftermath for 20 fucking years now.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (8 children)

As someone living in Asia, the US losing influence is a really scary thing. China has been increasing their aggression in the region and the US's presence has always been the counter to that. It was a good balance but a weaker US will tip the balance to China's favour. Not to mention that the US has been a key factor in getting Korea and Japan to work together on security matters. Unfortunately, there's no EU or NATO equivalent for us to rely on.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

As someone living in NATO area, I wish we would start NATO 2 without the US. They can effectively veto anything they want.

Time for a new collaboration.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn’t that what the EU is? What are the military aspects of being in the Union? I’ve only ever heard about the economic aspects.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Eu is primarily an economic cooperation Although there are ideas for a shared army.

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