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it's like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won't do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?

What's the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That's unfriendly to say the least.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The money is still in the US but in private hands rather than public. Just because the money primarily stays in the domestic economy doesn't mean there's no cost to it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You realise private workers are also civilians with lives aka members of the public. Wtf do you mean "in private hands rather than the public"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (5 children)

"Public funds" refers to money held by the government, tax revenue. The amount of public funds is limited and there are a lot of valid, competing priorities for how the government spends it's money. Every dollar of public funds spent on bombs is a dollar that's not available for things like schools and infrastructure.

Private workers receive only some of the funds spent on manufacturing bombs. A significant portion of it goes to executives and shareholders in the military-industrial complex, as well as finding their way to politicians in the form of bribes. Private funds cannot be allocated to public services unless the individual chooses to donate them, or they are taxed back into being public.

I really shouldn't have to explain this, the difference between public and private is extremely basic. Public in this context doesn't mean "held by a member of the public" (that's what private means) it means "held by the public collectively, as represented by the government."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Thought you meant "THE public" as in "the average joe", soz. What I'm not sure about is what you have an issue with. The money invested into arms replenishment is a boost to US jobs/the economy. Why the complaint that it's left the treasury? Because it could "go to something else"? Sure, anything could go to something else, but you'd have to prove that something else is actually more important/urgent. And I don't think there's anything more worthwhile currently than defeating Russia, the biggest antagonist to the West for decades.

Not to mention, the investment has been miniscule given the gravity of the situation, how much is "too much" for peace in Europe/World? There can be no prosperity without security.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (42 children)

What I’m not sure about is what you have an issue with. The money invested into arms replenishment is a boost to US jobs/the economy. Why the complaint that it’s left the treasury?

Virtually every possible use of that money is "a boost to jobs/the economy." If they spent more on education, teachers would have more money to spend which would create more jobs and stimulate the economy. If they spent the money building trains, it would create more jobs and stimulate the economy. If they spent the money paying people to dig ditches and then fill the ditches back in, it would create more jobs and stimulate the economy. This talking point is complete nonsense and either ignorant or disingenuous. The arms industry is not particularly good for creating jobs/economic stimulus compared to spending the money on other things like education, you're trying to compare it to what, not spending it at all? That makes no sense.

Not to mention, the investment has been miniscule given the situation, how much is “too much” for peace in Europe/World? There can be no prosperity without security.

That assumes that funding the conflict and building more bombs is necessary to bring about peace and security, which I personally disagree with, but my position on the matter is irrelevant, the original comment was just seeking to answer the question and describe what some people on the right believe. Regardless of whether it's true or not that the military aid is necessary for peace, many people don't agree with that assessment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (47 children)

Sorry, made edits while you were responding. Covers some issues you have with it.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you want more money in public hands, holy shit is supporting a republican at any point from Regan to Trump the dumbest shit you could vote for. This is the party of ''goverment doesn't work'' and privatization of all public services. They have never been shy about just how little tax revenue they want to end up in gov service to citizens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I'm aware. I've never voted Republican in my life and don't intend to.

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