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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

Nah. The Germans and the Japanese have a sense of State, of common history someone could build upon. Japan went to the Middle Ages to the industrial era in little more than 100 years once it made contact with Europeans. Germany was always a great European power.

The Afghani have nothing of the sort. Their politics is nothing more than a bunch of warring tribes trying to outdo each other in backwardness.

And Russia is a nuclear power. Nobody is going to touch them with a ten-foot pole, certainly not in the way Germany and Japan were rebuilt post-WWII.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Germany could pretty accurately be described as "Warring Tribes" until Bismark unified Germany in 1870. Doesn't take that long for these things to change.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You got to be kidding me. Do you even have an idea of Germany's pre-modern and modem history?

Germany's "warring states" (mind you: states, not tribes) produced Charlemagne and a streak of European emperors, as well as a hundreds of artists, scientists, and philosophers including Goethe, Hegel, and Kant. It was one of the first countries to be reached by the Enlightenment.

Italy could also be described as "warring states" during the Renaissance.

What has Afghanistan produced when women aren't even allowed to complete secondary education?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Japan didn't have anything pre-WW1, it's literally why in WW2 they had to invade China, there weren't enough resources in Japan to establish an industrial base for their empire.

And Germany wasn't even unified until what, the 1870's? Germany is technically a younger country than the U.S, same with Italy, it's pure revisionism to say that European countries were ever united because they weren't until WW1 when Ultra-Nationalism became the name of the game in geopolitics.

I think you people are just legitimately uninformed about world history. The Afghans have the same thing going on for them, but Russia screwed it all up and created their divisions when they invaded