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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Apple only allowed browsers on ios to use webkit, so they quite literally were holding back browser development.

This has only recently been changed, and it appears you can only use an alternate browser engine in the EU, so they are still holding back mobile web browser development for people in most countries.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

That’s not holding back browser development, that’s just holding back browser usage.

That’s definitely not the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kind of a strange semantics argument at that point. Saying you can only build with X tools certainly impacts development. Why develop something that would never be allowed to be released?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That’s the exact argument you’re making: that X tools are the only way to develop a browser. Ignoring the entire world of other devices available.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

If you are only allowed to use internal combustion engines how do you expect to get an electric car?

If you have no where to sell your product, why develop it?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

We got electric cars when all we had was the internal combustion engine. What a silly metaphor.

But it’s nice to hear you admit that I was right, and that the browser could definitely still be developed. The proof, of course, is that there are dozens of web browsers out there in active development.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry I wasn't granular enough for you I figured you'd get the whole thought - if I am not allowed to sell anything but ice cars ( can only use WebKit on the largest group of consumers) what would be the incentive for me to create one unless I can also afford to create a platform or brand to release them on (nobody with the capital to do this is going to make something to the benefit of the users)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

It has nothing to do with usage. It's a restriction that's imposed on the browser developers.

Mozilla themselves claim that this makes development harder for them.

By forcing developers to have the same limitations as their own browser, apple has made it difficult for competitors to gain an edge over safari.