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After the whole Firefox debacle I'm trying to find a new privacy oriented browser for my Mac and iOS devices with bookmark syncing. Ideally an open source browser but I don't think one exists right now that has both macOS and iOS versions. For example LibreWolf has a Mac app but no iOS app.

It's not open source but Orion browser which exists on both Mac and iOS is the only browser I can find on Apple's App Store that has "Data Not Collected. The developer does not collect any data from this app." on its app store page.

And it has some interesting features like being able to run Chrome/Firefox extensions on iOS (including uBlock).

But I did some digging into Kagi, the makers of Orion and was turned off by them being an AI search company. Also, despite Kagi claiming Orion completely blocks fingerprinting I couldn't get Orion to pass EFF's fingerprinting benchmark tool; it always said I was unique no matter what settings I tried. And I've read some other questionable things about how Kagi operates its business which I won't go into here.

I know there's Brave but I'm turned off by the company's connection to crypto and their inclusion of AI in their browser.

Maybe Vivaldi? Vivaldi however says they do some anonymized telemetry to collect usage statistics. And again these two browsers also aren't open source either.

I'm afraid there are no good macOS + iOS browser setups? I'm hoping someone will correct me. ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

edit: typos

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[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Kagi doesn't just add optional AI features, they are an AI-first company that wants to turn search into an AI agent. They wrote a manifesto about it.

Maybe manifestos aren't worth much anymore, what's with Mozilla abandoning theirs, but I tend to believe a company when they tell me what they are.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Where did you find this "manifesto"?

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/company/

Read about Kagi's origin story and The Age of Pagerank is Over blog post, which serves as our manifesto.

https://blog.kagi.com/age-pagerank-over

Previously posted at kagi.ai on a page titled "Our Manifesto"

https://archive.is/PtPdj