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This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

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[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 25 points 1 week ago (8 children)

First they try and steal the legislature, now they try and make protest a mental condition. Obviously this won't go anywhere but the fact that 5 people signed onto this lunacy says plenty.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 3 points 1 week ago (7 children)

obviously won't go anywhere? I wouldn't take that for granted at all.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

In the state where Tim Walz is governor and the R only have a barely 50% in one house I would see it as trolling at best.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sometimes trolling gathers momemtum or is an effective exhaustion tactic. Probably good tobsend thank u notes to representitives who vote to protect their constituency from this b.s.

Idk why anyone would try to minimize this horror show. It's not something we can sleep through and expect to wake up from.

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Largely because expending notable energy on everything with no reasonable chance of becoming reality is playing right into the firehouse-of-bullshit they use.

Canada won't become a state. We won't invade Greenland Or Panama Or lock people up for saying Trump sucks, at least not here and now...

What they will do is what's already going on, stripping rights from vulnerable groups, plundering agencies and installing their own people, looking to control the media narrative, using whatever tools they can to entrench their ideals without resorting to things that might get them shot.

You think the George Floyd protests where something, just wait till the right spark sets things off this time versus the rich and right wing.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. I'm specifically saying bills like this are the more immediate threat than expansionism. I'm suggesting people check around in their own jurisdiction.

We can react to things with proportional energy to the threat. No need to employ a false binary here.

THIS is the critical rights stripping that needs to be stoppes -- Even if MN is less vulnerable in your opinion, it's a fair prompt to check the radar and trace the spread.

Like reproductive rights stripping -- it gets through in vulnerable areas and then does a LOT of cumulative damage. In the case of medical care denial, long term damage. This kind of thing? Not so long term.

Go ahead and just say you don't think this effects you personally, if that's the way of it. No need to neg on people who are ready to engage. It's not like we all panic and pass out. Some groups have learned to pace themselves and refresh their communities between actions. (potlucks. it's litterally parties and potlucks...)

[–] ShellMonkey@lemmy.socdojo.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Which is why I specifically said 'notable energy' which to me is the 'calling everyone and marching in the streets' kind of reaction. I would take this as more a 'we see you and are telling you it's bullshit' response. Or maybe get someone to file a similar but opposite proposal to highlight the stupidity of it.

Not a negging thing, and being in MN it certainly would affect me, but I don't see the former Democrat VP candidate signing it even if it did by some miracle get to his desk.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

sounds like we agree and have just a little gap in language or scope.

I just know if something such gets passed in my state, that the panel vans are going to be out and about, and getting pulled over for nothing at all turns into a likely imprisonment. For me and loved ones personally. No abstracts.

I've already had enough close calls with freelance bullies ready to hatecrime for fun or fear or being seen out of line to know there is a will to follow through with this kind of license for harm.

Anyway, I'm done with this back and forth for today and going to go do that research I mentioned.

Thanks for visiting the acropolis today, neighborino.

[–] nanoswarm9k@lemmus.org 1 points 1 week ago

Wow. I kinda hate we have to have a wikipedia page about Trump Derangement Syndrome, but it will be one of a few handy pages to bookmark for tracking movement on the issue.

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