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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (10 children)

There have also been an uptick in incidents of arson, vandalism, and violence against Tesla showrooms that, while unrelated to the protests, have led to Musk and President Donald Trump labeling them “domestic terrorism.”

Keep in mind that it's completely reasonable to suspect that at least some of these are false flag opperations orchestrated by the Trump administration to justify arresting innocent protesters or eventually declaring martial law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (9 children)

No, it really isn't. That's conspiracy theory and is part of the problem.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's still speculation. You can't provide evidence for Putin doing a thing in support of somebody else doing it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Chances that a US 3 letter agency has conducted clandestine operations within the country (aimed at misleading it's own populace) in the past 5 years are pretty much a certainty.

Speculation is pretty much all one can do for these because the evidence is deliberately and professionally hidden. Such evidence may never be available to the public and usually takes time to surface.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

While I tend to agree that the possibility exists (motive, means and opportunity align); are you suggesting that the absence of evidence here is a reason to believe the speculation?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I see what you mean. I would explain my logic as such:

  1. These agencies have a consistent history of misleading populaces at home and abroad, through tactics such as the one mentioned above.

  2. Part of their work is to hide/destroy evidence of falsehood.

  3. At one of the most turbulent times in decades, the chances of their clandestine participation in the way we view the world is all but assured.

So it's more of a recognition of a pattern than outright speculation. The alternative view that the US gov is not engaged in these activities domestically seems more far-fetched to me. Not impossible, just out of character.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

I like this explained reasoning better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Chances that a US 3 letter agency has conducted clandestine operations within the country (aimed at misleading it's own populace) in the past 5 years are pretty much a certainty.

That's an assumption you're making and then simply declaring to be self-evident.

It is not.

Speculation is pretty much all one can do for these because the evidence is deliberately and professionally hidden. Such evidence may never be available to the public and usually takes time to surface.

And there it is, the conspiracy theorist's bread and butter.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

That’s an assumption you’re making and then simply declaring to be self-evident.

It's self evident to anyone who reads the things that have been released regarding past events.

The US government has consistently relied on misleading it's populace as a tactic. If you genuinely don't believe this and want examples to digest with an open mind, id be glad to throw some out.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

If you genuinely don’t believe this and want examples to digest with an open mind, id be glad to throw some out.

Only if they're related to this claim.

You can't use "other things have happened" to make any damn claim you want. This is conspiracy bullshit.

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