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No. We need to make fascists afraid again. If you don't want to be bothered for owning a Klankar, then stop owning a Klankar.
By that logic we should be attacking Fords because Henry Ford was a Nazi. Maybe we should be burning 3M and Bayer products in the store?
Most existing Tesla owners are left-leaning and purchased the car in good faith before Elon was a public Nazi figure.
It’s not always easy to just sell your car. People are locked into financing contracts and have perhaps shelled out money for charging solutions at their home.
Your worldview is childish and reductive. Grow up and come back later.
Is Henry Ford, right now, at this moment, a Nazi?
Is 3M and Bayer today, at this moment, supporting Nazis?
Ok, we're not talking about the past right now. We're talking about the current situation. If they are left-leaning, as you imply, they understand the need to NOT display actively in use Nazi symbols and paraphernalia.
Then they can park it, cover it with a tarp, and use public transportation. Or, ride bike. Or, use rideshare.
No, it's principled: You NEVER show support for nazis, regardless of how inconvenient it is for you.
So in other words, you’ll remain childish and reductive. That would have been much shorter than reading your drivel.
It's far more childish to be unable to stick to principles. Children will punch another child for a cookie.... adults know not to, and ones that punch people for cookies are held in contempt by society.
Your stance would be the former: do whatever is easy.
So you do realize that a lot of people bought these well intentioned vehicles before Musk became a total fuckstick, right?
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to just go sell their vehicle that they are more than likely underwater on with the loan and can’t just pivot.
Nuance my friend.
Depends on the model. People are mostly attacking cybertrucks in the wild.
If it's cybertruck, the owner knew, or chose not to know.
Must be rough bring a CT owner. First, your vehicle depreciates 50-100k, then it starts falling apart, and now everyone hates you for it.
Still don't feel bad for them though.
I bought mine 6 years ago. I'm going to get rid of it but had to change plans because my son's car just died. I wouldn't blame anyone that vandalized my car. It should be expected.
Mine has been debadged for years but I just put BYD badges on it. I doubt too many people will know what that is but I hope someone gets a chuckle.
Here's a thought... Pre-vandalize it.
Get some white paint that won't damage your car, and write "Fuck Musk", or "Swasticar" so it looks like it's been keyed into your paint. Maybe grab a quality "cracked window" decal and slap it on the glass. Finally, take your bumper covers off.
Then when (or if) this shit cools off, you can just wash the car, peel the decal and re-attach your bumper covers.
And then park it front of a Tesla sales center?
I have a friend that does EV conversions of RAM Promaster vans. I wouldn't mind using my car to do a conversion and then build it out for a class b camper van.
This mentality is frighteningly close to one that justifies vandalism on businesses because they use temporary foreign workers. I don’t condone the destruction of private property owned by the rank and file of life. It should be directed at those who are doing actual harm
It is directly hurting the person doing the actual harm. It's not the vandals' fault that he used innocents as his human shield.
They are doing actual harm, by not being afraid of any association, regardless of how weak, to a fascist.
Yer heart is in the right place.
I hope you can gain perspective.
So, the time has come that people need to ask themselves: Are they willing to be associated with a fascist, in any way? If they are ok with that, why?
No one cares what you do or don’t condone. You’re no one.
And neither are you in the grand scheme. However what you are condoning will just radicalize the message and have it not resonate with those who’s help we will need in the future if this collapse actually comes about
It should not be expected. Its ok to say that. Nobody has any fuck up your property.
It’s okay to say we don’t agree with you either. Deal. With. It.
You do you I guess.
Except they came out after it was pretty well known he was one. He’s been a known piece of shit for a while now.
Most were on this guys jock until he threw his support behind the fuckstick
Go back to the times of Hitler, and imagine that you suddenly found out he owned the brand and proudly explained that those driving it represented his will.
I'm sure you'd find a way to sell it then.
I suspect they would NOT be in a rush to sell, given their comments.
Sell what exactly? Trying to be rational in an increasingly irrational world?
Why are they still driving them, then?
Again, perhaps some people, who just wanted to not deal with fuel costs, or tried to be altruistic about their cost to the environment, might not be able to just walk away from it.
Amazingly, some people are unwilling to fuck themselves over financially over protest, regardless of how well intentioned it is.
So, sell it, get a different one. Many companies make EVs now.
But they are willing to show undwindling support of a fascist fucking over everyone financially... No matter how evil the intention is.
I totally understand where yer coming from. And I hope that those who can decouple themselves from it, do so. But like hell I’m going to endorse harassing people without context. All that does is endorse extremism. Extreme acts can be condoned, but I sure hope you have a plan for afterwards. If not, you’ve just become what you are railing against.
You have the context: they are still showing their support for a fascist state, and this is worthy of harassment, as a matter of community defense.
Would you defend a woman wearing her grandpa's swastika pin, for any reason, or is that enough context, in that case?
We, as a society, are swinging back to making displays of fascism unacceptable. That's all the needed context.
To be fair, one of my neighbors bought one years before he knew about this, I don't believe he had any idea. I don't necessarily think he should have his car burned.
Sounds like one of your neighbors just needs to stop driving the Klankar, then.
This is why I hate the left is there is a ton of people just as stupid as people on the right. They have no social intelligence. They're out for blind rage blood. On the left and the right these people have that bipolar energy and rise to the top becoming our new voices of reason.
Left: 2+2=4 Right: 2+2=5 Center: 2+2=4.5 (You: "Both sides have good things to offer!")
Don’t blame this on the “left”. “Ubergeek” is just a moron.
There are people who support a fascist, and those who oppose them, and those just waiting to see who wins.
Which side are you on?
This is as narrow an understanding of things as any Republican which is my point. But can't call that out right that would make me a centrist even though I'm not. Can't be critical or you're labeled a "them"
There are flowers that smell pretty and there's flowers that look pretty and there are those that aren't really flowers but trees. Which ones do you like?
So, are you opposed to fascism, for it, or just waiting for the winner?
Or, what's your other option here? I fail to see any other at this time.
I don't really think in terms of fascism. It doesn't seem like an accurate way to think here
Fascism is the closest descriptor of what Elon supports.
Did you his his nazi salutes? Or his neonazi messaging?
No one cares what you hate, again, you are no one.
I'm literally one
afraid of what? These people are going to get caught and made examples of and honestly most of the world are not big fans of assaulting other people by proxy. Like I'm not okay going to break the windows in your acura because I think you bought a vehicle where the CEO turned asshole after the fact.
This was funny for a minute. But continuing to do it looks like we're just a bunch of stupid childish cunts.
Afraid of being associated with a fascist.
It was never funny, it was, and is, just great to see.
Most of the world is raping and pillaging lol most people are blank slates that do what they are told.
Look at MAGA for proof and all the proof from other countries that are fucking MAGA, too.
Look at the religions we made to try to put the fear of God into people to stop killing each other.
Come the fuck on.
I'm not following sorry