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Good, mixers are legitimate privacy tools
Do you have any evidence to back this up?
It's reasonable to assume that the vast majority of their throughput is used for crime.
The overwhelming majority of people do not leverage crypto in any way. Even crypto scam promoters almost exclusively focus on speculation and do not use crypto as money.
And you do not need the payment for your order of bell peppers and toilet paper to be private. Let's be real here.
Over the 15+ years that we've had crypto, there have been only two viable uses. All others have failed:
Yes I do.
Just because you don't value your privacy doesn't mean nobody does. It's none of the government's business what I buy, nor is it my bank's. They'll need to find another way to catch criminals than forcing me to be transparent about my transactions.
You debasing the notion of privacy and government spying if you think your toilet paper purchases are relevant in the context of this discussion.
Tell us you don't understand privacy without telling us you don't understand privacy.
It absolutely is relevant.
The government shouldn't be able to know whether I'm buying toilet paper, ammunition, or anti-government books. There should be no way to track purchases to me unless I opt-in and provide it (e.g. register for a warranty, submit to background check, etc). They don't need to know both sides of any transaction to enforce any law, because that would be a violation of my 4th amendment rights (or whatever privacy/anti-search laws you have in your country).
I happen to not commit crimes, generally speaking, but that's completely irrelevant to the discussion about whether my purchases should be in the clear. Ideally, everywhere would accept some form of privacy-oriented cryptocurrency, like Monero. How money gets from me to the vendor is completely unrelated to law enforcement, all they need is a record of transactions for tax purposes, and there's nothing stopping the store from tracking that in the same way they do cash. If they suspect someone of a crime, they can do old-fashioned police work and prove it (e.g. subpoena camera footage, station officers at the scene, interview people, etc).