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I saw this article earlier:

Tesla 'going bankrupt' is endpoint of protests, says local organizer

In the spirit of right to repair, self-hosting, giving a second life to old devices, and limiting data collection by car companies:

  • What are some considerations?
  • Are there any projects worth keeping an eye on?

An example that came to mind was Valetudo, which is a cloud replacement for vacuum robots enabling local-only operation. Some robot vacuums are easy to install this on, and others require more invasive modifications.

What I've found so far:

  • FreedomEV, a project that was presented at FOSSDEM 2019 but doesn't have recent activity
  • TeslaMate, which is a popular and active selfhosted data logger for Teslas, but not necessarily a replacement for the software
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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Mixed feelings on this. Yeah, you buy it you should own it. But if your ability to fuck with a two-ton rolling death machine puts my ass at risk, we've got a fucking problem.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People fuck with two ton rolling death machines every day. What are mechanics? What are car enthusiasts? You just have accepted that you can't touch the computer because they told you you can't. That's stupid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

See above nested comment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I have some bad news for you - any random idiot with a driver's license and a two-ton death machine already puts your ass at risk, all the time. We call it "traffic" because we've just gotten used to it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm talking 'I disabled the awareness requirement of autopilot' or 'I fucked with the object detection and here goes my beta test yolo' or 'I added a button to disable all the lights so I can covertly street race' or...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Have you never heard of tunes?

Any idiot can make substantial software changes to almost any modern car with easily available inexpensive hardware. Look up Cobb, ECUtek, openflashtablet, Hondata, etc

You literally just plug it into a port and flash the software

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

See above nested comment; tune aren't inherently a safety concern.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And? People can already do this with most cars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

There's a difference between 'physical work required' and 'plug in this dongle and run the exe' though

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Imagine thinking Tesla has all-that-much in place to prevent those things in a stock configuration. Full-stop, any self-driving is one of the first features anyone trying to disconnect their cars from Tesla servers would lose outright.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Ehh doubt, but I don't have a tesla to verify. If I can sever the connection to the home base, I can fuck with it however I want, and their kill switch is useless. Maybe they implemented the kill switch in the modem or something, but again I can't test. I highly doubt that when you're road-tripping in bumfuck nowhere the ap disables itself...

Anybody want to give me $40k? We can be besties.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

It is not comparable, not even by far.

Assuming your are not a psycho, to safely drive a car is orders of magnitude (in plural) easier than modifying the Sw in a safe and deterministic way.

It is not only that bad people exists, it is about that making a small mistake can kill you

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Nothing has stopped people with ice vehicles.