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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (4 children)

AP is supposed to disable itself if a fault or abnormality is detected. Pretty much all advanced cruise control systems do this.

I don’t think it’s fair to say the car was hiding evidence of AP being used unless it was intentionally logging the data in shady way. We’d need to see the logs of the car, and there are some roundabout ways for a consumer to pull those. That would probably be an interesting test for someone on YouTube to run.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

These systems disable right before a crash because the national traffic safety org in the US requires manufacturers to report if these systems were engaged during an accident.

It is not for safety or because of a malfunction, it's for marketing. Car companies dont want the features that they sell for 3-8k coming up all the time in crash statistics.

Tesla is the biggest offender here, likely due to vehicles sold, but also due to their camera only system and their aggressively false "full self driving" and "autopilot" marketing that far over promises.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just saying I’d like to see some more data. I get that Musk is not someone who should be trusted. Especially if it’s around complying with regulators.

That said, I could see that system being disengaged by some intended safety triggers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

At the very least the system should initiate an emergency break when it disengages like that and there is no conflicting human input.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

100% agree. My stupid Volvo does that, and it doesn’t have lidar or a million cameras around it.