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Like do they just guesstimate where they'd see the most use?

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you are expecting consistency from something like this, you should try getting involved in local politics at least once.

Whatever way you imagine for deciding it, the answer is yes, they do that.

Do they gesstimate? Yes!

Do they hire engineers to guesstimate? Yes!

Do they concede to popular pressure? Yes!

Do they concede to money pressure? Yes!

Do they use the placement to guide the city's evolution? Yes!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Do they change the placement because a business "bribed" (i mean lobbied) for them to not to put a bus stop near them as they don't want to see the poors near them? Yes!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In my experience in Germay, the more expensive shops are closer to public transport. In the same vein apartments near public transport stops are the most sought after and therefore most expensive ones.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That’s amazing, it’s the complete opposite in the US haha

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Yeah, actually some companies like IKEA which often are located "on the outskirts" even pay for lines from train stations to their shops - which are for public use and often it's a mixed deal, like the company (or sometimes a few companies, sometimes even competitors) subsidies the line during business hours and the local government pays the remaining hours.

Sometimes this is mandated before business or factories can even open. That's why a few suburban train stations in various German cities have company names (see Siemenswerke) or, more recently Tesla. (Who tried to get out of it,opened their line to late and then tried to claim it as a technical innovation)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't it be the other way around ? Lobby to get a bus stop to drag more customer ?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

In the US I think busses are generally associated with the bottom of society, so not the customer you want. Just my interpretation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

And homelessness the US are the ones tgat gave spikes on park benches it's awful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Or in the case of my city, they built a bus stop in the massive parking lot between Walmart and Sam's Club for the opposite reason!

I'm sure it was added for both employees and customers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that is why I said business not store and yes this is very uniquely American.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

A store is a business...

While I don't doubt that there are places in the US that try to keep bus stops from being near businesses for the same reasons they have hostile architecture, it doesn't seem universal at all. Touristy areas have bus stops near businesses that want tourists for example.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

What I mean a business that is not a store. Think investment bank or importer B2B business or a highend appointment only boutiques