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And after I answer throughly, you run away because you can't accept the reality of this.
Just like every other Finn.
Which is exactly my point.
I forgot about the whole convo but went back to answer your message. Not sure again what happened to you has to do with the topic tbh.
You're obtuse and just pretend that you can't deduce anything from anything I've said or any of the photos shown.
That's exactly the problem. You'd rather pretend like you literally went blind and have absolutely no reasoning ability whatsoever than accept than a one Finnish authorities may have purposefully broken laws.
Coward.
There's plenty of cases where Finnish authorities have purposefully broken laws. I don't really have trouble with believing them. Doesn't mean I believe every accusation of it though.
You delude yourself so badly it's pathetic.
Youre literally still not accepting criticism or giving an alternative explanation.
Sä oot säälittävä ja joka ikinen suomalainen käyttäytyy samal taval ku sinä ja kukaan teistä ei myönnä sitä. Mun oma vitun mutsi samanlaine "en mä tiedä mitä siel tapahtu." Tiedätpä. Mä just kerroin ja näytin valokuvia. Lopeta todellisuudelta juokseminen.
"I'm not refusing to do the thing I've ignored, run away from, pretender doesn't exist, and sorely just am afraid of. But I'm not all that, because it's doesn't matter what reality is, only matter what I, Pissdick Shitpants say reality is. And I'm saying it's not what it is. I can't offer an explanation, but reality isn't real. Cops in Finland don't torture and I knows this because... I read an article saying Finland is the happiest country in the world and the word of Iltalehti is law and 100% true."
It's just that your pictures or story don't prove what you're claiming. Nothing more to it.
They do, and I've more proof.
You're just too afraid to accept reality.
You're not trying to deceive me, you're deceiving yourself.
So what, I made those photos? Or you think it's okay for someone to be deprived medical attention for days while under supervision for "their safety"? Or you're just ignoring reality because you're a paskahousu?
There are no other options.
Pick one.
I'm sorry but there might be a reason that others have thought they don't prove what you hope they prove (as in, torture).
Also, why is this whole thing now about this one thing
I'm literally just repeating myself because of how obtuse and self-deceiving you are.
The Finnish aren't the happiest country in the world by a mile, we have one of the psychologically sickest populations there is. And the endemic part is the ignoring of that.
Which is what you're exemplifying.
You literally can't propose a single legal thing that may have happened, you have no explanation, no idea, no suggestions, not even wild guesses.
The only thing you can do is stomp your foot while going "no no no no no no not true there's no flaw in Finland. Actually, I even refuse to admit that I have the flaw of refusing to admit to faults by lying and saying I am okay with them while absolutely closing my eyes to the pile of shit that the government did.
You can't give an alternative yet refuse to accept it. That's known as a itkupotkuraivari, paskahousu.
We all are lying to ourselves and you are awake
You see lying to yourself.
Why do you keep ignoring my questions? Why do you keep stomping your foot "no that's not possible". Why do you asininely pretend that you didn't see 90% of the things I wrote.
Because you're not trying to lie to me, but to you.
Prove me wrong and give me ANY explanation for those photos and what I've told you. Legal one.
But you can't, because you're a reality avoiding emotionally stunted person who wishes to live in their lintukoto (~lalaland roughly for our English readers).
https://yle.fi/a/74-20151696
It exists only in your head
No it's possible. I just don't think you've proven it.
And I don't this shit has anything to do with the og topic.
I've explained both literally a dozen times.
You're so pathetic you have to pretend not have read 95% of what I've written. You have to lie like a toddler. It's pathetic.
You are literally unable to accept reality. You're stomping your foot crying no while not being able to answer my questions about what you think has happened.
This thread is quite literally me explaining how Finnish willfull ignorance is literally impossible to believe, that's how bad it is. And you're showing everyone I'm 100% right, by skipping what I repeat in every comment.
Tell me a legal version of how that happened. Or did I make those photos?
But you won't be able to answer, because you're a delusional paskahousu.
Did you go to court over this? I mean if your words and picture prove it why not
Yeah, first I lodge complaints with the local police, then the national police, national ombudsman, and all ignored it.
Lawyer ways we got a watertight case for ECHR the way the cops behaved with this.
But no. For weeks you cry and cry and cry "it's not real" when you're unable to give a single alternative explanation to what happened.
This is beyond sick and disgusting.
And I'm not gonna dox myself by giving you my court documents, the emotionally stunted self-deceiving sääntöhuora paskahousu you are.
You can not offer any explanation to why you think these photos exist even when I can explain it to the letter, and have provided you KKO decision showing how the cops actually prevented me from my basic rights right at the start by saying "you can't film cops when they're working."
Finnish people like you don't understand emotions, you're controlled mostly by your avoidance. You won't admit to it, the paskahousu you are, but the fact you keep saying "0% government fault you probably deserved it" when all the evidence we actually have points the other way.
And you're a dime in a dozen honey.
And you live in denial about it, but to this thread is a testament to it.
You don't even understand the definition of torture, thinking it's some cartoon shit.
Grow a pair and give any explanation to what I've had to repeat what seems like a hubdred times because you REFUSE TO ACCEPT REALITY.
And the proof is that you keep avoiding even implicitly saying there might have been some crime. You don't care about reality. Only the delusions you live on of some laughable cartoons of "Finnish spirit". Grow up.
So did to court cases go anywhere?
Yes, it's in the ECHR.
Why do you ignore everything I say?
What's your explanation to what happened?
They literally accused me of vandalising the cell in my own blood, then when asked for the evidence (which I'm entitled to under a general FOI request under GDPR which they also ignored which I sent two days after getting out).
You're too afraid to admit to reality. You think "as long as rhe government doesn't think the government did anything wrong, nothing wrong can have happened".
That's literally a fully authoritarian state of mind.
You're just one example to add to how obtuse Finns can be. You're literally pathologically avoidant.
Just look at my fucking finger. And this is a week afterwards.
LOOK AT IT.
Image upload isn't working, but you've seen it,it's in the thread.
I was under constant supervision, "for my safety", and managed to wrote 300 words. Not letters. Words. With my own flesh and blood.
And you can't even manage a "gee I'm sorry that happened to you".
And you don't understand what this has to do with me saying how "Finland is the happiest country in the world" is bullshit because most Finns are literally so emotionally stunted they don't understand the basics of empathy that most humans around the world learn around the age of 3-7.
Unless there's a ruling from a Finnish court too I guess we'll have to see what the ECHR says.
"I'm unable to form an opinion or to have any idea of what has happened" - delusional paskahousu
So you just admit that you have zero thoughts of your own? Zero ability to reason? You can only know things that the government tells you?
This has been exactly my point through-out this thread. You deny reality and refuse to think for yourself.
If the pollers in this study had went to North Korea to poll them about their happiness, I think they would've taken the #1 spot. Just as an unrelated tangent.
I mean sorry I'm not just trusting your claims on something like this.
It's not a courtesy. It's an extension of your willfull ignorance. You simply can not answer simple questions about what you think happened because of psychological blocks you have.
It's incredible, I know, but the facts speak to the matter. So you know... my point about Finns being emotionally stunted evasive avoidant assholes stands pretty strongly at 100% when you literally say "I'm avoiding this conversation, willfully."
Because you're a coward who can't accept reality. That's unfortunately common in the Finnish spirit, and I aim to change it. That's why I'm a patriot and you're a coward.
You can't utter a single opinion, yet you're too stubborn to just tuck your tail and run away, as you do from the subject at hand.
This is exactly why I brought this up. To make someone like you come and challenge it and then prove how wilfully ignorant of an authoritarian sycophant you are. Not like I haven't explained it literally a couple of dozen times already, but you like to pretend, because you can't admit to yourself what a coward you are. Paskahousu.
Tell me a single opinion of yours of what you think happened to me based on the photos and the story provided. Anything. Call me a schizophrenic who faked them with AI or something, I don't care. Give me an opinion of yours. Show me that I'm not totally right in that Finns are actually culturally so emotionally stunted that it genuinely affects the cognitive capacity. Please, man. I have no faith anymore in Finns, and your pathetic bullshit is just re-enforcing that view. Grow some balls and prove me wrong and address the subject, no matter what your opinion. As long as you fucking have one.
As a courtesy I just wanted to say that I'm not reading these anymore. This discussion hasn't served any purpose for quite a while. So I'm peacing out and looking forward to have this discussion again next year
You've gone days without being able to utter a single opinion, just stomping your foot "no no no no no".
That's an itkupotkuraivari. A temper tantrum.
You're emotionally stunted, my man. You don't have a basic capacity for empathy, and you're too much of a coward to even try when someone points it out. Utterly pathetic.
Give me a single opinion on what happened. "I don't know." You mean "I'm too much of a paskahousu to even think what I know to be true."
Yes
"I already said I have no capability of forming my opinion. What more do you want from me [to prove your point about Finns being unable to form their own opinions]".
Nothing, really. Your incapability to answer direct and simple questions put to you is proof of what I've been saying all along. That's why I've said it. And that's why were at the limit. There is no limit to the amathia of the vast majority of Finns. It's endemic. And you exemplify it perfectly.
"No I have no idea how you could have gotten a finger like that, despite your pages and pages of explicit explanation."
"No I have no idea how someone could manage to mangle them so badly as to write MORE THAN A NOVEL'S WORTH with their own blood on the walls while under 'supervision for their safety'."
"I just can't form an opinion until the government tells me to."
You know I enjoyed the military as well, but I'm assuming you weren't put into AUK with that amount of cognitive capability.
Let it all out my guy
More excuses and more avoidance.
Zero explanation.
"NO NO NO THOSE PHOTOS ARENT REAL :((((("
Vitun mammanpoika.
Give me an explanation as to what you think happened. Also, look up the ECHR definition for torture, because it'll help your tiny closed off authoritarian mind to understand why this qualifies.
I already said I don't know. That's as much as you'll get, sorry.
You keep saying you have accepted criticism of Finland while actively avoiding any explanation of what happened to me and profusely denying any evidence put to you while still not giving an alternative explanation as to what would've have been the more likely thing.
You're just totally paralysed by your inability to accept reality. Paskahousu.
You can't answer the questions I've put to you more than a dozen times because you're a paskahousu afraid of accepting reality. Prove me wrong and tell me any legal version of events. Or tell me I faked the photos. ANYTHING. But you can't form a single fucking opinion.
It's pathetic.
You think I deny all criticism because I am not convinced of this particular criticism. I'm not sure that tracks.
You mean "I'm too scared to answer" or "I literally won't form a single opinion of my own based on anything I see until the government tells me what I've seen?"
You know I'm sure if they measured happiness in NK, they'd have topped the chart and Finland would just be #2. Just you know, like as a sidenote.
So you can't say how it's possible I spend several days of meals worth of time in a cell, while mutilating myself physically, because I was denied my prescription medication which prevents me from going fucking insane, which resulted in me drawing on the fucking walls in my own blood?
You have no idea whether there may be any criminal responsibilty with the people who prevented me from getting healthcare while DENYING my medications (and even at one point turning off my water)?
Tätä mä tarkotin koko langan alussa. Koko Suomi on täynnä samanlaisii itsetärkeit paskahousuja ketkä ei oikeesti uskalla puhua mistään ja patologisesti välttelee kritiikkiä valtiota kohtaan. Fakin insane.
Yes I'm terrified of criticizing Finland and definitely haven't done that very thing on this account.
Congrats, you managed to be avoidant so much that Lemmy won't even allow a deeper thread.
You simply are too much of a paskahousu to answer the very clear questions I've put to you. The amount of self-deception you've publically shat into this thread would be incredible if I hadn't seen it thousands of times before in other Finns.
Thanks
edit It's maximum depth of a thread, apparently.
Still pathologically avoiding any kind of answer.
Don't you see how sick that is?
For the umpteenth time: If you en countered someone who ate themselves, drew with blood on the walls etc, and you didn't see that they got medical attendance, you'd be guilty of heitteillejättö.
I was supposedly under constant supervision.
I ate myself, as evidenced from the picture, drew several flesh wound on my body which caused permanent scarring, and wrote over 300 words on the walls with my own blood BECAUSE MY PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS WERE WITHHELD BY THE GUARDS.
So what is your explanation why I didn't get healthcare? Why I didn't get my meds?
Don't know
You know what's more pathetic than reply blocking? Reply blocking and unblockin
For the umpteenth time: If you en countered someone who ate themselves, drew with blood on the walls etc, and you didn't see that they got medical attendance, you'd be guilty of heitteillejättö.
I was supposedly under constant supervision.
I ate myself, as evidenced from the picture, drew several flesh wound on my body which caused permanent scarring, and wrote over 300 words on the walls with my own blood BECAUSE MY PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS WERE WITHHELD BY THE GUARDS.
So what is your explanation why I didn't get healthcare? Why I didn't get my meds?
Still pathologically avoiding any kind of answer.
Don't you see how sick that is?
For the umpteenth time: If you en countered someone who ate themselves, drew with blood on the walls etc, and you didn't see that they got medical attendance, you'd be guilty of heitteillejättö.
I was supposedly under constant supervision.
I ate myself, as evidenced from the picture, drew several flesh wound on my body which caused permanent scarring, and wrote over 300 words on the walls with my own blood BECAUSE MY PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS WERE WITHHELD BY THE GUARDS.
So what is your explanation why I didn't get healthcare? Why I didn't get my meds?
I think your app is just acting up. Or you used some banned words or something. Because I haven't blocked you. You can also try to reply to some other comment of mine or send a dm when those issues come up to see if those go through.
Photographs aren't claims.
You've pathetically avoided giving a single explanation to them. Its disgusting, and anyone should realise that sort of unquestioning authoritarian thinking will fuck up Finland. Or has already.
How do you explain the bloody cell?
You simply can't answer that question. You won't. You're too afraid.
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Edit the coward blocks me, because he can't answer. Replyblocking is so childish.
Here's a reply to that comment below this one to the pathetic coward @Kusimulkku
For the umpteenth time: If you en countered someone who ate themselves, drew with blood on the walls etc, and you didn't see that they got medical attendance, you'd be guilty of heitteillejättö.
I was supposedly under constant supervision.
I ate myself, as evidenced from the picture, drew several flesh wound on my body which caused permanent scarring, and wrote over 300 words on the walls with my own blood BECAUSE MY PRESCRIBED MEDICATIONS WERE WITHHELD BY THE GUARDS.
So what is your explanation why I didn't get healthcare? Why I didn't get my meds?
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Edit 2 know what's more pathetic than reply blocking? Reply blocking then unblocking to reply, because lemmy doesn't have the 24h wait period reddit did.
You're not blocked.
Photographs aren't showing what you hope they do. I mean you've clearly had some episode, no doubt, but it doesn't mean you were tortured.
Without anything more there's nothing to do here. Sorry.