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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (4 children)

    Just saying that it’s brain dead easy to install. You don’t need any technical skill at all.

    There are no tricks. Just mouse through a couple of prompts and it’s done.

    I’ve installed Linux just as many times as windows and these days Linux is more complicated to set up and install than windows.

    Like I get it. Yall have a deep bias for Linux but Jesus Christ can you at least be accurate?

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    I find you still have to fuss with partitions. There isn’t a simple wipe everything and install option. You have to manually select the partitions on the disk, delete them and create a new one which somehow triggers it to create several partitions.

    There is an upgrade option.

    And then they tell you they don’t want a Microsoft account and you have to look up what’s the current hack to get around that if possible.

    That said, I think the Linux install experience is very clear about what it’s going to do.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    You had it right until the "create a new one" bit.

    You can choose empty space instead of a partition and the setup will create the partitions for you. I mean even if you were to choose a partition, I believe it'll delete it and create new ones because it needs more than just one partition. So on a clean disk, you can pretty much just hit next at that bit.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Lolwat. Last time I installed windows it literally created 3 partitions exactly when I told it "this clean disk - here ya go"

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That's exactly what I said, it creates its own partitions if you make free space or already have a clean disk. No need to manually make a partition.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Aand why the hell does it do that? And why the hell count is more than one? And while we are at it, what is so deadly and frightening with Linux installer creating a partition?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    I mean it creates an EFI partition unless you have one, a recovery partition, and a... whatever the fuck an MSR partition is. It stands for Microsoft Reserved I believe, and should be 16 MB nowadays.

    And then there's the one partition that your OS goes on, the C:\ partition.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    which is so much better and intuitive than Linux installer creating exactly one partition, right?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I mean you still have a separate EFI partition under Linux. Personally I also have a separate /home partition which is heavily recommended in case you nuke your Linux either on purpose or accidentally. You may also want to create other partitions, like swap, though I just have a swapfile.

    Is the an installer that only creates only one partition, no EFI system partition?

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Yup, last time I installed Ubuntu it was that, one partition. So now, what has @henfredemars got "not right"?

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    That you have to manually specify partitions in Windows?

    You literally don't have to create a single one, only point it at empty space or a partition you're willing to have it delete for space. It handles the rest. Does it matter how many partitions it creates?

    Did you install that Ubuntu on a legacy BIOS system or maybe one with an existing EFI partition? Because I can't see how you could have a modern OS without at least two partitions.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

    The point was that you have to manually remove them, not create

    Or maybe I missed the EFI partition when run gparted after installation, it being much smaller than rest of the drive

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

    It was just as easy to install linux, it came with a graphical installer

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

    Jesus Christ can you at least be accurate?

    Speaking of accuracy, your comment seems to identify the wrong issue. Navigating the install menus in a non-Arch linux distro is pretty much analogous to Windows. The biggest difference is that Linux distros don't have 3-4 pages where they sneakily try to include privacy-breaching clauses during the installation.

    The real issue is starting the installation in the first place. Windows is easy, because hardware manufacturer's have en masse bent over to willingly present themselves to Microsoft, Linux doesn't have this advantage and users must figure out how to get around the 7,000 different Secure Boot UEFI configurations before they can even start the installation process.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

    You are vastly overestimating the technical ability of the average computer user. I don't even mean that in an elitist/disparaging way, they just don’t care about this stuff because they don’t need to.