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It's literally not smoke, that's what I'm saying. It's fucking water vapor. There's no harm, and it's literally undetectable aside from a brief smell of whatever it's flavored with.
Equating vapes with tobacco is so stupid. There is zero (0) tobacco in a vape.
Yes but there IS nicotine in most vapes, which is the harmful part
That crazy myth needs to die. Nicotine is approximately as harmful as caffeine. Highly addictive but not particularly harmful itself. Tobacco and all the chemicals they put in cigarettes are the stuff that gives you cancer.
be me, sneaking outside at work to vape while my coworker brings a literal gallon of coffee everyday.
nicotine certainly has been demonized in the last few decades.
I saw a great long-form article with a theory that I don't completely buy into but is very interesting.
In 1998, a MASSIVE lawsuit against the tobacco companies was settled. The result was the Master Settlement Agreement (MSA). Due to the harmful public health effects of tobacco, cigarette companies were required to pay huge sums to the state governments, in perpetuity, based on the level of sales of cigarettes. To be clear, this was a great and reasonable idea, given the public health costs associated with smoking (funny enough, since then, costs have lowered on average as people live longer but smokers don't).
Several states then "securitized" their future payments and sold them off to get short-term injections of cash. If the term "securitization" seems familiar, it's the craze that led to the financial collapse in 2008, when people were securitizing junk mortgages. As part of these tobacco bond securitization agreements, states have to pay their business partners a certain dollar amount every year going forward, NOT based on the level of sales of cigarettes.
Then, for a variety of reasons including vaping, cigarette sales started to tank. Meaning states were getting less money from the MSA, but they still owed the same amount to their debtors. Many of these bonds are in junk status, and some states are realistically looking at bankruptcy due to that stupid decision 20 years ago. There's $97 billion they owe in total, and most states have no way to pay it.
So now we have a large number of state governments with an extremely powerful financial incentive to suppress vaping and encourage cigarette smoking.
This is a conspiracy theory.
This is no different from being an anti-vaxxer or Ivermectin nut. You are selectively reading bits of studies that you are not understanding, and do not have basic knowledge of how statistics or the human body work.
Like I said, I don't fully buy into it, but the facts are incontrovertible and it's a fairly compelling argument.