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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Early 1930s.

The US has elections still, while Hitler abolished all democracy the moment he could.

As soon as Trump starts actually using his presidential power to the full extent, that's when you have entered 1933. He is still holding back at the moment - the US President is legally speaking nearly equivalent to an absolute monarch and can do far more than just signing executive orders, stopping federal money transfer and deporting non-citizens.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He's gone beyond the full extent into illegality. And no we don't know if there are elections anymore, there were elections but if you don't need to with for at least another 3 years you wouldn't announce it early.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Illegality has layers though. Right now they're merely probing the waters and seeing how much pushback there is from the judicative.

That's rather tame compared to Hitler's first months, where the nazis centralized all power under them.

The US has had multiple local elections as well, while all free elections vanished the moment Hitler had the power to do so.

So I'd argue the US is somewhere around 1932. Not everything is lost just yet but you're moving ever closer to the point of no return.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

They brought an Enabling Act to vote in committee.