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And what’s stopping another group from using oppression to get the monopoly on power again once anarchy is introduced?
You.
You can cease your circular logic. Your response says you didn't read anarchists praxis, in history.
Well, would you mind telling what I should read to understand it better? The first link you send I did read, the second has thousands of files, so I didn’t know where to start.
All of it. Until you fully comprehend that when everyone's equipped with anti-oppression tools, nobody can, or should be oppressed.
@[email protected] ’s meme is neoliberalism at its finest, sending bombs to Gaza, and slavering Africans. What “Freedom” is there, when they oppress other nations, and their civilians, through theft?
So do you keep up to date with the new files being added every day?
So, do you read book covers for the pretty fonts, or do read and conceptualize the contents of a news article with a journal to take notes with at the next post?
I am not trying to be petty or mean, but I honestly don’t understand what you are trying to say.
Jesus H. Christ.
Also a historical anarchist!
Happy Easter, anti-christ!
Rhetorics are praxis, yours are shit. Be less angry. Project less of your pain on random passers-by. Assume innocence. If you can't, work on it until you can. If you don't understand why that's the case, why it's a bad idea to preach from on-high as an Anarchist...
Is this a projective preach for yourself? Or do you actually have something to deoppress in Europe that I can help with?
If you read the thread from my responses, I was replied to in ignorance and bad faith.
That is not ignorance. That' a chance to educate, and you blew it. Did you send them a link to the anarchist library or something and really expect them to read it. At that point you should have been asking what kind of question, aspects, interests them most, and give some pointers.
That is not bad faith, but ignorance. Presumably because you failed to give a proper and vulgar definition yourself. Vulgar as in "doesn't use misleading terms such as 'state' which has a completely different meaning in the dictionary than it does in anarchist theory so you should keep it out of first impressions and leave it to the history seminar".
Frankly speaking, if you can't advocate for anarchism without getting the term anarchy or any politics involved, you're not doing it right. Not that that's always the best approach, but it is a viable and valuable approach.
Why, are we so flawless on the continent that you're itching for any opportunity, any, to apply your vast skills of deoppression? Go outside. You don't need me to point out shit, shit should be obvious, question is how to grow flowers on it.
Ah, I see, I failed to actually call out European Neoliberalism for what it is, because @[email protected] is both ignorant and not ignorant about oppression.
Go right ahead and mentor them. I have prisons to abolish.
Why are you tagging me in a separate thread? I have no interest in engaging with you here.
There you go, @[email protected] , you have your Rhetorics answered.
I apologize, Thekingoflorda. Someone thinks people can be convinced of a new political thought over a thread, instead of years of immersion and peer review.
As if convincing me was in any way your goal. You are clearly only here to feel morally superior and smarter then other people.
If that was the case, why are we not working together to end European & American imperialism?
Indeed. What's your actual motivation, here: Advocate for Anarchism, or be angry at Neoliberals? Why frame the whole thing as "against bad thing" instead of "in favour of good thing"? Is there a reasoning behind it?
Are other people the reason they can't be convinced, or at least their interest be piqued, or your combative approach? Are you willing to entertain that possibility or does your mind shy away from it, seeking not an answer to the question but justifications to ignore it?
Freedom. Do you speak it?
I don't mind you not telling me the answers to those questions. They are not intended to put you on the spot, or to be used to judge you. But I do suggest you be honest with yourself when answering them, for yourself.
Also freedom is a spook read some Stirner.
Then please ~~enslave~~spook your rhetorics anywhere else.
Unless you're helping me abolish incarceration, I see no futher use in policing my speech.
Did arguing here help you abolish incarceration, reform the Japanese legal system?
You are absolutely free and welcome to prioritise that struggle, focus on it but... then why not focus on it? Why sit here, diving head-first into controversy, when you could do work in your community?
Should you not, instead, study law and become a constitutional judge? A legal scholar, investigating reforms to the system? Instead you sit here, online, being angry at mods for not having read the whole of the anarchist library. Pissing against the wind and whistling while you do so.
Yep, this is projection on your part.
Let me know when you're ready to submit your Japanese reform bills. I'm available, whenever.
I'm neither Japanese nor a legal scholar of any kind nor focussed on legal system / prison reform.
You said you are. Act like it. Or don't, but then don't say you are. The only thing I'm asking of you here is self-consistency. Focus on your focus. If in doubt, observe your process of focussing until you've figured out what you're actually drawn to (the latter might feel suspiciously like Zen because it is Zen, with all the BS trappings removed).
Well, can you point us to an example where anarchy effectively worked? With more than a thousand people?
It just doesn't seem to function, and you just don't want to try to figure out why and fix it.
That's the problem IMO with anarchists (like you).
Sure! Plenty of examples, both alive, and in the past.
It's just extremely saddening when statists forgo teaching basic anarchist praxis, and prefer to indoctrinate statist homogeneity.
Why does oppression function so well then, that freedom means now oppression of others, and you seem content on maintaining that contradiction? Since when was freedom justified in the oppression of others?
My problem is I don't like oppression, but you do!
Nah the problem is you're blaming everyone else for some reason.
Blaming what‽