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Pope Francis was a great Christian pastor (lemmynsfw.com)
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[–] [email protected] 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

"Pastor" is the term for the person that leads a church / church congregation. The general ranking of the hierarchy is:

  • Deacon (not yet a priest, are usually all volunteer, but can do some ceremonies)
  • Pastor or priest (ordained, usually employed by the Church itself, they're allowed to hold all ceremonies and conduct mass or church service)
  • Bishop (management level, must be 35, must be a priest for 5 years)
  • Archbishop (oversee multiple churches and run the archdiocese; there's 196 in the US. Wyoming has a single archdiocese)
  • Cardinal (upper management, only cardinals are allowed to vote on new popes)
  • Lastly - Pope. The man at the top, there's only one.

J.D. Vance is Catholic, and referred to the Pope as a 'pastor'. This would be like somebody saying "(insert American President) was a good mayor".

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

there's only one.

unless

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yea yea there's some schismatics out there that claim to be the "actual" pope but there hasn't really been an anti-pope since 1449.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

But there was pope emeritus

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

"Pastor" is a Latin word that means shepherd. Francis would appreciate the title of pastor, because for his entire papacy he put the pastoral concerns of guiding the congregation before theology and nearly any other concern the church might have.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I tend to place personal experience over random internet articles written by strangers. I attended catholic church weekly until 18 and went to catholic primary and secondary schools, and not once did I hear a member of the clergy referred to as 'pastor'. Not once.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

I'm not even, and never have been, Catholic. That being said, I attended the local Catholic primary and secondary (high school) schools, because my parents looked at the graduation rates of the local public schools, and the private Catholic school, and put us kids into the one with a 99% graduation rate, and a 70% university attendance rate.

I would NEVER call a priest or nun anything other than Father or Sister. Sister Mary Josephine is dead and I still fear that meter/ yard stick.