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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Only on iOS. Also a lot of apps can present valid uses for microphone access, which prompts users to allow unlimited malicious use

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can be absolutely certain no apps can access my mic in the background. Even when in the foreground, there is a hot-mic indicator.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Here's the misleading part:

Tap on one of those "while in use" apps. You'll see there is no option "allowed all the time." It doesn't exist.

"while in use" is top level, and changes to "while using the app" when you actually look at the permission. They really mean when the app is running. And many often run in the background.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Theoretically if mic gets accessed it should be lighting the indicator. Not sure if that's how it actually works though.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Not only on iOS. I use Android and my microphone is always off unless I allow a specific app to use it, and even then, I have the option of only allowing it for that one time. Including the phone app.

Mic and camera are always off.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What happens when you answer the phone?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

A little pop up comes up saying something about "getting the most out of your phone" with the option to turn the mic on for the app that's requesting it (phone app). Only turns on for the call. Just gotta tap the screen once.

I keep the mic and camera options at the top of my quick-... whatever they call them... options, so if I need either one for something else, it's super easy to turn off/on.

Android shows a little green logo in the top right if the mic and/or camera is on as well. So if I ever do enable them, it's easy to remember to turn them off again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thanks I'm gonna try it out for a while

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It works great for me. I'm using a Pixel with stock Android, so I can only speak to how it behaves on my phone. I know sometimes carriers add/change shit.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I did this but stopped because if I pick up the phone locked, I have to unlock it to turn mic on and answer the call. So I just make sure to allow mic access only to apps that really need it

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Check out GrapheneOS

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Because it is software-based access control, it is impossible to guarantee that access really has been disabled. Thanks to Apple's design, we now live in a world where users are not supposed to detach batteries or physically turn off microphones and cameras; it's all software-controlled. The problem is that software can be hacked and have backdoors. Also, thanks to Apple's smart design, users can no longer upgrade the memory sticks on their Mac Minis and MacBooks. Why do I say it is all Apple's fault? Unfortunately, other manufacturers copy these design ideas...