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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (14 children)

I have a dairy farm. A few years ago I asked my employees if we should add a third shift and do 8 hours instead of 12. They work hard, is seemed like a reasonable idea.

They hated that I even brought it up. They want money and they want to work. I was specifically told by one of my leads that if we were to go to 8 hours, they would work a shift and a half. I'm paying over the average rate for dairy work, and everyone gets vacation days based on tenure. And 90 percent of my employees will work their vacation days and take the paycheck. They don't want less hours. They have bills to pay and family to support and shorter hours are less money. Same as most Americans I know. I get it.

I'm not saying it is everyone, but the guys I work with have incredible work ethic and a priority to make money and get ahead in life. And I'm all for that.

What I'm tired of is my people being scared of American politics and the potential for their work and investment in this country to get ripped away on the whim of some scared Karens and the policies maga has enabled. I hate it.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (11 children)

What’s your starting and average per hour pay for them? And are they getting four hours of OT on those twelve hour shifts?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Depending on jurisdiction OT might not be payable on time that isn't outside of their regular schedule. I used to work 12h shifts and by law it was ok because that's the schedule I was assigned and I agreed to, past that it would become overtime and after 4h of OT I could simply refuse to do more (by law).

So yeah, labor laws vary, keep that in mind.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, like trucking, agriculture is exempt from OT, not that some employers don't choose to still pay it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Again, don't talk about labor laws as if they were the same everywhere, even in the US there's federal and state laws, in my case in Canada it's federal and provincial laws and OT exists in the agricultural sector outside of harvest season in my province (which doesn't apply to greenhouse work since it's always harvest season, so no OT in that sector unless it's not agricultural work you're asked to do)...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

My bad, it's federally exempt in the US. The map here is clickable and has state-by-state laws. https://www.farmworkerjustice.org/overtime-map/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This story isn't about can Canadian jobs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

If you read again and pay attention this time you'll realize that I mentioned the US and gave a Canadian example of agricultural labor laws because the same logic applies, it's not centralized in the federal government's hands.

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