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This is a stupid argument. Trans women are not too strong for sport, but too strong for women's sport.
What's the point of segregating sports by gender?
If it's a matter of performance then they can break sports into performance classes, no gender segregation needed.
If it's a matter of fairness and making space for women in sports, then trans women deserve not to have to play with the boys just like any other woman.
Because men outclass women in almost any physical ability, be it strength, speed or endurance. Just look at world records.
Ah yes, let's make sport less accessible by introducing arbitrary limitations. Do we have basketball up to 1.60m height, then up to 1.70m height, then up to 1.80m height and so on? And do we introduce different tiers within those tiers by only having people up to 1.70m and 60kg, then 1.70 and 70kg ...
You CANT split sport into "performance classes", at least not in a way where it would help - men would on average still be in the higher "performance class" and nothing would change.
I know you probably don't want to hear that, but biologically, trans women aren't women. They are still physically superior to cis women. That's why we prefix them with "trans". Even after extensive hormone therapy, trans women still have some advantages over cis women.
Nobody has a problem with trans women in non-physical sports. Nobody would bat an eye if there was a trans women in chess. Nobody would care if there was a trans woman in e-sports (we actually had one years ago in league if I remember correctly). But we can't just abandon fairness for cis women in sport because we want to appease a small number of trans women, and on a physical level (especially before hormone therapy), they still do have an advantage.
You're wrong about the non physical part. The league player was Remilia. She didn't even play for half a year because of harassment. Fide(governing body for chess) also banned trans women from women-only events. There was a fishing tournament recently where a woman refused to compete against a supposedly trans woman.