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Wishing harm on your fellow struggling working class people just because they're uninformed voters is pretty cringe.
Being uninformed at this point feels like a choice.
To you. To them, it's normal.
Nnno. No. See, as much as I agree that they're wildly mislead and that does absolve them of some of the malice, the only way they'll ever change is to face the reality of what their actions result in.
What about their families? Their children? People who had nothing to do with any of this and are just along for the ride? Wishing harm on red states and counties is cringe.
What about my family, my children? Why is the onus of acceptance on me, a member of the group they revile, and not on the people who vocally want to put me in a camp? Sure I'm better than them, for example I don't on a personal level wish most of them any ill, but "wanting them to see the result of their actions" isn't exactly round them up and deport them!
Fuck's sake, get some perspective.
You're the one missing perspective, friend. Go outside.
... Wait, why is your perspective the singularly true one?
I'm simply glad they're getting exactly what they asked for. "Less harm" was an option, and they knew that. They chose otherwise.
They did not know that, obviously, or they would have voted differently.
Nobody was unwillingly unaware of what the GOP wants/does. They chose to insulate themselves in right wing media, they chose to ignore the literal millions of people telling them what Trump wants to do, they chose to ignore Trump saying what he wants to do, they chose to ignore Project 2025 which was plastered everywhere for months prior to the election.
There is no more benefit of the doubt for these people until they fucking admit what theyve done, and they don't seem to be willing to do so. So fuck them.
You are the cringe here with your disingenous concern trolling.
If you want to bend over and accept the consequences of the idiots that don't give a shit about anyone but themselves, then that's fine, but don't lump the rest of us in.
This comment is not addressing anything I said at all and can therefore be discarded
They're the ones that voted for it. It's also much more than just uninformed. Many of these people enjoy the suffering and plight of "liberals" or anyone who isn't in their cult. Many are unapologetic bigots.
I do wish harm on them, because they deserve it. They have all the info they need to not be cruel. Many of them choose to be cruel because they enjoy it. I've seen it firsthand, many many many times.
I hope you don't feel you're any better than them, then. Because hate begets hate. You should attack bigotry, you should attack the hateful ideology, but you can't assume that every Trump voter even understood the impact of what they chose. The entire media ecosystem and education system in this country are explicitly designed to keep us from understanding how things work. The vitriol isn't going to solve anything.
Yikes. Evangelizing about tolerance towards a group that itself preaches the value in your wholesale slaughter is... not great. We can at the same time understand that they've been victims of a massive propaganda campaign and revile them for wanting us dead. Wishing for someone to face the consequences of their actions isn't intolerant, it's fair.
You don't get one without the other. Hate is what they feed on. Attention. Anger. Deprive them of that. Any harm done to them hurts their neighbors, their kids, other locals who didn't vote, or voted against it, and it's just.. a bad take. Wishing harm on others is just shit-slinging, and I'm sick of it. Reject the hate in your heart.
You are actually philosophically in the wrong here- you should take a look at the paradox of tolerance.
A tolerant, just person MUST NOT tolerate intolerance.
That's not the same thing. I'm saying, "don't wish harm on people just because they live in a red state or voted Republican". You're saying that means I'm advocating for the tolerance of hate. I am not advocating for that. I'm saying that wishing harm on people is shitty. Of course we should ban bigoted speech from online spaces.
It's absolutely the same thing, you're just not paying attention to what you're actually saying.
I think you live in a bubble.
The modern version of "no u"? Rapier like, truly.
Intolerance towards the intolerant. That is absolutely what the paradox of tolerance implies.
Paradox of tolerance applies here. Your "argument" amounts to nothing but the usual right wing lies of "so much for the tolerant left". A tolerant society requires intolerance towards the intolerant. It is not that difficult to grasp.
I've always disliked that this is called a "paradox". It's more of a linguistic issue more than logic. The statement is just as well "we dislike malice". No paradox there.
I’m wishing harm on them because they’re racist, sexist idiots that not only vote against my self interest for child predators and murderers but against mine. Being an idiot isn’t an excuse anymore, they need to get out of the way of progress or be moved, permanently.
Not necessarily harm, it is just wishing them the consequences of their actions, and for those chuds having consequences happen to themselves seems to be the only wake up call possible.
So you can slink right back in your hole with that disingenous nonsense.