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[-] [email protected] 48 points 2 months ago

2 of the worst companies out there fighting, get the popcorn ready

[-] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

As much as people harp on blackrock and vanguard they hold a ton of people's retirement funds.

This is a vicious thing to do of course but they are protecting a lot of people's nest egg.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Fuck them. Oh no the insurance company is doing what it's supposed to instead of denying everyone like they do.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Their job is to attain shareholder value, not to legislate healthcare. If you're relying on the charity of for-profit corporations run by shareholders then you're going to have a sad time, you need to look at who you're voting for.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Their job is to attain shareholder value, not to legislate healthcare.

Client Profile: UnitedHealth Group

Total Lobbying Expenditures, 2025: $3,370,000

:-/ Strange to spend $3.3M in an effort to shape legislation if that's not your job.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Whats your plan then, shame them for lobbying as well?

Once we have sufficiently shamed all corporations will we live in a utopia.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

So get the government to do something. That makes more sense.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Sure but it is sorta a treating the symptom and not the disease. Blackrock is right to sue them as a shareholder but companies should not be involved in people's health care to begin with.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Actually they're wrong to do it

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Can you explain in what way you feel Blackrock is right? Do you feel that people’s lives and healthcare are less important than share holder profits for a company that sells you the promise of covering your medical expenses because that’s what you are specifically paying them to do because they gave you a legally binding agreement to do so? How does a health insurance company insuring healthcare costs put them in the wrong? I really need a clarification here.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Oh please. That doesn't make the math any more forgivable. Every investor made a choice. The fact that it's an institutional investor and mutual funds doesn't sever the provider of the money and their demand for returns from the ethical issues of what the companies are doing.

Don't fail to hold equity investors like this to account because they're holding grandma's retirement hostage. That's on grandma too.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

This is a vicious thing to do

If you get into the weeds, the issue isn't that UHC updated their coverage policies and practices. It is that they did so without notifying shareholders first.

Incidentally, one upshot of this lawsuit will be a long period of discovery during which UHC will attempt to prove it is fulfilling its fiduciary duty by showing off how many cruel and nefarious methods it uses to fuck over its clients. So, while you might shit on Blackrock for "viciously" exposing UHC's internal practices to the light of day, I've gotta say that I am seeing nothing but positive outcomes as a result.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Wait. What's the deal with vanguard? I don't think I've ever seen anyone harp on them

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