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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Are we really going to let playing into complete delusion be part of the ethics that shape left wing progressive culture and politics?

We all know this user does not ride or fuck* or magically bond with a fucking dragon. It's not something we should "respect".

*(u/[email protected] is their actual username, "Dragon Rider (drag)" is just a display name.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

https://www.healthdirect.gov.au/delusions

Delusions are false ideas or beliefs that someone holds onto, even when there is evidence that they are not real. These beliefs are not shared by other people from the same:

cultural background

religion

social group

Not a delusion. Believing in dragons is completely normal in drag's cultural background, religion, and social group. If you like, drag can refer you to a few discord servers for dragonkin - otherkin who identify as dragons. Drag can also introduce you to @[email protected], drag's fiance and dragon.

The alternative to respecting cultural beliefs is cultural intolerance. You're arguing for cultural intolerance to be part of the ethics of the left. Drag thinks that's gross.

[+] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag's dragon doesn't identify as male, and wouldn't like being called a bro. Drag thinks you called a nonbinary person a "bro" for the same reason you don't respect its species identity - you're a conservative. You don't get to have any input on leftist ideas until you stop misgendering trans people.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I get to advocate for social safety nets and general welfare at the cost of the rich as much as I want regardless of how little acceptance I have for delusional scalies.

This should not define left wing politics.
You should be allowed by the rest of this userbase to define left wing politics with this nonsense.
If you are the left wing, the left wing loses the majority forever.

The progressive movement was supposed to be a realistic movement, without the delusions of religion.
But you lot managed to co-opt the culture of the progressive movement into accepting all kinds of alternative forms of idiocy, but this otherkin shit is arguably less annoying than astrology's rampant infection of feminism.

Our movement is crippled by insanity. Our contemporaries are nothing like our predecessors. We are significantly worse.
Less capable, less intelligent, less successful.

I hope for our sake it's the fucking microplastics, because if we managed to fuck this up so bad without suffering from some poison, if it's completely our own fault, then that's just fucking sad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delusional_disorder

The DSM-IV and psychologists agree that personal beliefs should be evaluated with great respect to cultural and religious differences, as some cultures have normalized beliefs that may be considered delusional in other cultures.[15]

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/9599-delusional-disorder

A delusion is an unshakable belief in something that’s untrue. The belief isn’t a part of the person’s culture or subculture, and almost everyone else knows this belief to be false.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK539855/

A delusion is a fixed false belief based on an inaccurate interpretation of an external reality despite evidence to the contrary. The belief is not congruent with one’s culture or subculture, and almost everyone else knows it to be false.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/au/conditions/delusional-disorder

Delusions are fixed beliefs that do not change, even when a person is presented with conflicting evidence. Delusions are considered "bizarre" if they are clearly implausible and peers within the same culture cannot understand them.

You can't appeal to being "realistic" while you deny science by calling cultural beliefs delusions. You are denying science. Drag has explained the science to you. If leftism is going to do what you say, it will have to leave science behind. And that's wrong.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

We seem to have found the crux of it, this is how you convince yourself.

I have little sympathy for you on this one.
You just have a weird, unimportant problem.

I have some sympathy, I think you'll need a friend when you crash out of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You are denying science.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'd argue two things:

Religious people are also delusional, just not usually in the same way as the classical disorder.
Furry/Scalie/Otherkin "culture" is not in the scope of the intention of the cultural/religious exception.

Especially considering almost all furries know they're not actually a dog or a wolf or a cat, regardless of how enthusiastic their roleplay gets. When your seriousness is not shared by the majority of your culture I think it should be obvious even to you that the exception would not apply. That is unless you claim a different, even more niche culture.

And I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess your parents aren't "dragonkin" or any otherkin, either. It's not the culture of your hometown or family.

Your otherkin "culture" is no more valid an exception than the joining of a cult.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag's biological father is a witch. Drag forged drag's own path, and isn't a witch, but occultism runs in drag's family. Instead of a witch, drag became a dragon rider, and the occult side of drag's family accepts that. The otherkin community isn't the same as the furry community. Drag would like to reiterate drag's offer to introduce you to some otherkin spaces. There are even otherkin on Lemmy. One Lemmy user is a spaceship. You should visit [email protected].

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Dear fuck, this rabbit hole goes too deep. I'm done spelunking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Drag made a mistake in the prior comment. Lemmy actually has two users who are spaceships. Drag visited the community and was reminded of Slikki. But the ship drag was thinking of before is Gravitas Deficiency.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish you were joking, Dragster.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You've lived a sheltered life without meeting many otherkin until now. Now you know better.