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It's really good news that a military state lost their war assets used to wage war (they should have never been built to begin with) but i'm gonna use this thread to highlight something else:
If 34% of russian strategic missile bombers got destroyed in a ukrainian drone operation, EU governments are simply lying when they say russia is going to invade europe and that we must stack more billions on the ones we already spend in war.
Ukraine is part of Europe
The threats used as a leverage to increase the already high military budget of the european union countries are about a widespread invasion of europe and attack to nato.
I agree that Russia wouldn't stand a chance against NATO, but that's because NATO is well funded. Spending money on the military is expensive, but not as expensive as Russia invading.
Given ukraine managed to wipe 34% of their strategic missile bombers with a drone operation it sounds like there's room for cuts
And what about US aggression towards parts of the EU like Greenland? You sure you want to decrease military spending against an increasingly facist super power right on your doorstep that has already openly stated to be very much interested in forcefully attaining your overseas territory? I don't think so. Pacifism, unfortunately, is dead in this new age of multilaterlism and worldwide resurging authoritarianism.
Great, let's spend the budget in weapons right before the far right authoritarians reach all governments in Europe! Can't see that going wrong! After all, Europe has never done anything bad militarily!
What would change without having the weapons? Nothing, other than the EU being a soft target for rivaling power blocks, inviting more war into Europe. Look at poor Ukraine. Putler thought them weak and attacked. Same power dynamics since the dawn of man.
You should also keep in mind that the EU is a supra-national federalist construct. So a sudden and all-encompassing power grab of the executive branch by the authoritarians - like the one in the US - simply isn't possible due to all participating nations still being sovereign and having their own military.
It still supports the ongoing genocide in Gaza and supported the invasion of Iraq, the bombing of Yugoslavia, the destruction of Libya, Afghanistan, colonialism in Africa... Seriously, tell me three military interventions done by European countries in the past century that were arguably moral.
The whataboutisms must flow!
I'm addressing the military expenditure of the EU, how is showing historical evidence of military expenditure of the EU whataboutism? It's literally the topic we're talking about. You just don't want to think about this topic because you're obviously right in your point of view, so you're using a thought-terminating line to shut down your brain
No. We have been talking about the present and future threats to the EU while you choose to mostly indulge in past actions that weren't even conducted by justification of Europe's immediate security. Geopolitical concerns have fundamentally changed since then and you are now comparing rotten apples to budding oranges, calling them one and the same, which obviously they are not.
I agree, the EU isn't perfect, but it is the best the world has to offer for the future of democracy and individual freedoms. Afterall, perfect is the enemy of good.
And how exactly do you think those other wars were presented in the past? Do you think Nazi politicians weren't telling their population that Lebensraum was exclusively for the defense of German culture and rights against the barbaric Russians? Do you not think that the imperialist powers in WW1 fighting each other framed these wars as defensive to their own populations? Essentially: "trust me bro, this next war will be the defensive war bro, I promise bro"
Didn't I just tell you about the ongoing genocide in Gaza that European states support? How can you claim that things have changed when Europe keeps engaging in genocide?
"Maybe Europe has a history of barbaric colonialism and imperialism leaving tens (if not hundreds) of millions of deaths in its colonies in Africa, Asia and South America. Maybe European states have fought endless wars among each other in the name of self defence. Maybe Europe continues to engage in the support of genocidal apartheid states such as Israel, and recently itself participated in the bombing of Yugoslavia, Iraq and Libya. Maybe Europe is getting overrun by far-right politicians as we see in Poland, Italy and soon Germany and France. But Europe is the best and most free the world has to offer! Yes, I'm European, but I swear that opinion is completely reasoned, unlike the opinions of people from other countries outside Europe who hold the exact same beliefs towards their own countries! No, I'm not a nationalist/chauvinist"
Those are a lot of words for someone who has lost the argument some comments ago. Continuing to use whataboutisms and creating straw men to advance your warped view on geopolitics simply outs you as an imbecile, not worth any more effort.
You're just regurgitating the wikipedia list of logical fallacies without knowing what they mean, peak redditor behaviour.
You are replying in a thread about 34% of Russian strategic Russian bombers being wiped by a "poor" ukraine drone attack.
Same power dynamics since the dawn of man, rulers use fear to seize power.
On one end there's rational fear of irrational authoritarian regimes, and on the other fearmongering on the basis of lies. If you cannot discern which regime uses which rhetoric, then all further discussion seems moot to me.
Since the dawn of man no regime is good.
The US has more than a thousand military facilities all over europe, if they are your concern the best way to defend against them is indeed cuts.
Don't say nonsense please, if you are concerned with authoritarianism you want to cut the military budget to 0 so that no authoritarian ruler can use it.
You keep repeating the same talking points. That doesn't make them any more true. How boring of you.
They can launch the missiles from the smaller fighters too. And if they win the war and gain ground then they can build more planes and buy some from China.
Can I ask your security assessment of:
The Transatlantic cables?
The recent network outages in Spain?
Transnistria?
Gagauzia?
The EU-Belarus border?
The North African migrant crisis?
The ongoing cyberattacks that have been hitting Europe for years?
The price of wheat?
Then I would ask your assessment of how much the EU should plan on relying on the USA for its security over the long term.
Threats to annex Greenland?
Threats to annex Canada?
Threats to seize control of the Panama Canal?
Kill switches in the F-35?
Sentiments expressed during the Signalgate Incident about the US doing all the work in securing the Red Sea?
Attempts to influence European elections?
Growing American control of the Western Internet?
Doubling the already over the top european military budget isn't going to fix any of the things in your first list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_highest_military_expenditures
If european countries are concerned with USA instead of doubling their military budget they can simply cut and close the thousands USA military facilities all over europe.
Can I ask you to expand on that thought?
The north african migrant crisis is a direct result of european countries among others fucking up africa and the middle east. Doubling the military budget has the potential to make thing even worst.