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Automating the Knead for Bread
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A friend just happened to give me a starter the same day I got my machine. It was a total coincidence.
Now I’m on the hunt for a good bread machine sourdough recipe. My machine’s manual came with one, but it calls for starter and yeast which sounds like cheating. And probably not very flavorful 😒
For the time frame your machine works at using a starter and yeast isn’t a horrible idea.
It’s not gonna taste very sourdoughy though is it?
I’m still learning the machine but I think it has an option that’s basically just knead and proof. I wonder if I could just run that a couple times. Or does sourdough just need a long final proof?
THIS RECIPE MAKES 2 LOAVES, EACH ABOUT 1½ POUNDS.
BULK FERMENTATION: About 5 hours
PROOF TIME: 12 to 14 hours
SAMPLE SCHEDULE: Feed the levain at 8 a.m., mix the final dough at 3 p.m., shape into loaves at 8 p.m. proof the loaves in the refrigerator overnight, and bake around 8 to 10 a.m. the next morning
Levain
Baker's Formula
* The baker's percentage for levain is the amount of flour in the levain expressed as a percentage of the total flour in the recipe.
1a. Feed the levain About 24 hours after your previous feeding of the levain, discard all but 100 grams of the levain, leaving the remainder in your 6-quart tub. Add 400 grams of white flour, 100 grams of whole wheat flour, and 400 grams of water at 85°F to 90°F (29°C to 32°C) and mix by hand just until incorpo-rated. Cover and let rest at room temperature for 6 to 8 hours before mixing the final dough. 1b. Autolyse After 6 to 8 hours, mix the 740 grams of white flour and the 60 grams of whole wheat flour by hand in a 12-quart round tub. Add the 620 grams of 90°F to 95°F (32°C to 35°C) water and mix by hand just until incorpo-rated. Cover and let rest for 20 to 30 minutes. 2. Mix the final dough Sprinkle the 21 grams of salt and the 2 grams (½ teaspoon) of yeast evenly over the top of the dough. Put a container with about a finger's depth of warm water on your scale so you can easily remove the levain after it's weighed. With wet hands, transfer 360 grams of levain into the container. Transfer the weighed levain to the 12-quart dough tub, minimizing the amount of water transferred with it. Mix by hand, wetting your working hand before ming se the dough doesn't stick to you. Use t method (see page 67) alternating wi the dough to fully integrate the ing The target dough temperature at th ints, the mix is 77°F to 78°F (25°C to 26°C). Tid of 3. Fold This dough needs three or four foas (see pages 69-70). It's easiest to apply the folds during the first 1½ to 2 hours after mixing the dough. When the dough is about 2½ times its original volume, about 5 hours after mixing, it's ready to be divided. 4. Divide With floured hands, gently ease the dough out of the tub and onto a lightly floured work surface. With your hands still loured, pick up the dough and ease it back down onto the work surface in a somewhat even shape. Use a bit of flour to dust the area in the middle where you'll cut the dough, then cutit
into 2 equal-size pieces with a dough knife or plastic dough scraper. 5. Shape Dust 2 proofing baskets with flour. Shape each piece of dough into a medium-tight ball following the instructions on pages 71-73. Place each seam side down in its proofing basket. 6. Proof Place each basket in a nonperforated plastic bag and refrigerate overnight. The next morning, 12 to 14 hours after the loaves went into the refrigerator, they should be ready to bake, straight from the refrigera-tor. They don't need to come to room temperature first. 7. Preheat At least 45 minutes prior to baking, put a rack in the middle of the oven and put 2 Dutch ovens on the rack with their lids on. Preheat the oven to 475°F (245°C). If you only have 1 Dutch oven, keep the other loaf in the refrigerator while the first loaf is baking, and bake the loaves sequentially, giving the Dutch oven a 5-min-ute reheat after removing the first loaf. 8. Bake For the next step, please be careful not to let your hands, fingers, or forearms touch the extremely hot Dutch oven. Invert the proofed loaf onto a lightly floured countertop, keeping in mind that the top of the loaf will be the side that was facing down while it was rising— the seam side. Remove the preheated Dutch oven from your kitchen oven, remove the lid, and carefully place the loaf in the Dutch oven seam side up. Cover and bake for 30 minutes, then uncover and bake for about 20 minutes, until dark brown all around the loaf. Check after 15 minutes of baking uncovered in case your oven runs hot. Remove the Dutch oven and carefully tilt it to turn the loaf out. Let cool on a rack or set the loaf on its side so air can circulate around it. Let the loaf rest for at least 20 minutes before slicing.
Sorry for the shit formatting.
Turns out I might not be smart enough for sourdough 😳
That’s a Ken Forkish recipe for a starter/yeast recipe he’s pretty obsessive but you can take the quantities and give it a try and see what happens and what you like.