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Today’s decision in Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton is a direct blow to the free speech rights of adults. The Court ruled that “no person—adult or child—has a First Amendment right to access speech that is obscene to minors without first submitting proof of age.” This ruling allows states to enact onerous age-verification rules that will block adults from accessing lawful speech, curtail their ability to be anonymous, and jeopardize their data security and privacy. These are real and immense burdens on adults, and the Court was wrong to ignore them in upholding Texas’ law.

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[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Are there graphic gore and violence websites that kids are frequenting by the millions daily?

[-] [email protected] 28 points 3 weeks ago

Movies, books, and video games all have a decently sizeable amount, yea. Especially the Bible.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Movies already have ratings systems and age checks.

Books at book stores don’t generally have graphic violence and gore.

The bible is just text, there’s no gore or violence that kids can see.

[-] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Movies already have ratings systems and age checks.

Lol.

Books at book stores don’t generally have graphic violence and gore.

You realize words still count right?

The bible is just text, there’s no gore or violence that kids can see.

I repeat the above.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

No, words don’t count as graphic violence lol. Graphic violence is defined as being in visual media, not written.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago

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[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

if that's the case, I hope you fall down the stairs and snap your tibia out of your skin and have to lay in your own pooling blood crying out in pain and anguish waiting for someone to call for help. only to have waited so long that you throw up on yourself and your gaping wound whilst you go into shock from blood loss.

how's that make you feel?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

You think reading that would make me feel the same as watching a video of that happening to someone?

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

nope.

you clearly lack the imagination and intelligence.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Im sorry but no amount of text descriptions of gore or extreme violence can even remotely compare to photos or video of said gore or violence. Ever.

Thinking it can demonstrates a lack of intelligence.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Thinking it can, demonstrates a lack of intelligence.

ftfy

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Did you just add punctuation incorrectly in an attempt to prove your intelligence/downplay mine?

You do understand that the sentence you just wrote is grammatically incorrect, don’t you?

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

What's funny is the Bible is worse than most of the books that are banned as far as depravity goes.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago

Books at book stores don’t generally have graphic violence and gore.

...seriously? Go read The Boys or Chainsaw Man or Gantz

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago

Nah bro didn't you see his other reply? Words aren't graphic in any way ever. It's in the word. Graphic. There's no graphics in books, it don't have a graphics card!

[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago

Why does scale matter? If it was only 50k kids daily would it change your mind?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Putting it in the same perspective as the number that access porn.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

So it’s a scale problem for you? What number is acceptable?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No, it’s not just a scale problem, but to even suggest that kids looking at graphic violence videos on YouTube etc is as prevalent as or as big of an issue as kids looking at porn is absurd. There are studies galore linking the consumption of porn in children to all sorts of behavioural issue, and studies showing that it’s increasing dramatically.

I have nothing against porn, I don’t think it should be censored or banned or anything - but age restrictions done properly (ie securely and privately) are long overdue.

And before you say it - yes, I think the same should apply to other not-suitable-for-kids content like extreme violence, vulgarity, etc. The difference is that all the streaming sites and other content hostels already have age verification. You can’t just click “yes I’m over 18” and watch R18+ or X rated content.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

age restrictions *done properly (ie securely and privately)* are long overdue.

This does not exist.

It is claimed to exist, but you can’t name a single technology that guarantees security and privacy from the user to the source of the verification.

Are you willing to trust pornhub with your personal information? Xhamster? Kink.com? Motherless? Draft porn? PervertTube? And on, and on, and on.

You trust that every, single, individual, porn site is going to have both the know how, and scruples, to keep this data 100% secure and private?

Because I don’t even trust that a site can keep my credit card information private and secure, as has been shown to be a good bet over and over again despite there being a plethora of laws on how to handle such information.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn’t exist, but that is what some are suggesting and hoping is going to be made with these laws being passed. It would be a really good thing for the internet and websites/apps as a whole tbh if a system like this is made, and it’s not like it would be difficult.

The sites wouldnt need your information, they would just verify that the person attempting to access the site is authenticated as being 18+.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

How do you verify someone is 18 without your information?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

By verifying with a central age verification system.

What has been thrown around, and what should hopefully be the solution, is that a government agency (as a last resort) or a independent trusted authority makes a system where you create an account and verify your age with your documents with them. Then they have public APIs for sites to hit - you give the site a unique key (preferably you would generate individual keys that are tied to your account for every site) and all that site does is hit that API going “Is the person that this key belongs to 18+?”, and the response is yes or no.

Simple, secure, private. The site you’re accessing doesn’t know who you are and doesn’t get your details. The age verification site also doesn’t necessarily know the site you were using, and this should not be logged either.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Lmao. Yeah, the government is going to implement this? Assuming it is actually secure, when do you expect this to release? A decade from now?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Would be incredibly easy to make secure, as it wouldn’t even need to store the verification documents or anything personally identifiable once your account is set up.

I think if the government is actually serious about doing this they will need to do it, or outsource it to someone who will. I don’t actually think these laws will take effect in December.

This could even be done incredibly easily via myGov for example. It has everyone’s information including DOB. I could build an age verification API for that in a night with time for a good snooze.

Do you agree that it is possible without all of the porn sites getting your information now at least?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Theoretically possible? Sure. Though I don’t trust the US government with this information either.

Then there a completely different problem to be concerned with: https://chinamediaproject.org/2025/06/04/chinas-slow-march-toward-cyber-ids/

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The government already has access to what sites you visit btw. They already know if you’re a big booty fan or a gagging kinda guy. They’ve got their fingers in every ISP

I think that a few independent secure age verification services will pop up soon enough. Wouldn’t surprise me if the parent company of pornhub or one of those sites makes it themselves. There’s huge money to be made in it.

Hell I might start asking around with my lawyer friends to see what would be required. Could knock it out in a weekend. The hardest part would be finding the consequences/legal issues of verifying based on fake documents.

And yes countries like the US, UK, and Australia are all fast approaching a digital id that will be used to access the internet. Australia will be the first. We’re basically the testing ground for authoritarian tracking and control laws, and our population are too dumb as a whole to understand what is going on. We’re already getting a Digital ID system soon, and our banks are going cashless. Currently whenever you try to take cash out of more than a few hundred bucks you get a free game of 20 questions and they will refuse to give you your own money if they don’t like your answers.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Less button clicks to just use a free online vpn

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

They're coming for our VPNs soon enough, be sure of that. Here in Australia they've already flagged wanting to ban them.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 weeks ago

Yes. Youtube. Cable TV. Every streaming service.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

All have age warnings and restrictions.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago
[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Warning yes, restrictions no.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I’d love to hear from the 3 downvotes on why they downvoted me here lol. Do they think that pornhub does have age verification and restricts those who haven’t verified their age?

[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago

YouTube, Netflix, Hulu, Peacock, Disney+, Max, etc. And that’s before we get into the bad faith false equivalence of comparing violence to nudity and sexuality. One is a natural and beautiful part of life, the other is literally violence.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Those all have age rating systems in place lol.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Wow, you didn’t just move the goalpost, you switched the sport. And “lol”, I guess?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

How do you figure? The argument is that porn shouldn’t have age restrictions cause violence on tv and streaming media doesn’t…….but I pointed out that they do have age restrictions.

How is that “changing the sport”? What did you think we were discussing?

[-] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

Are there graphic gore and violence websites that kids are frequenting by the millions daily?

The question was answered and you changed the topic. This is called a “moving the goalpost” fallacy. Looking at your comment history, it’s abundantly clear that I have inadvertently fed a troll, so that’s on me.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

And also huge lols at saying porn is just nudity and sexuality

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