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"I've been warned not to talk about it," the woman wrote, before revealing snippets of the day she says she was arrested for publishing gay erotica.

"I'll never forget it - being escorted to the car in full view, enduring the humiliation of stripping naked for examination in front of strangers, putting on a vest for photos, sitting in the chair, shaking with fear, my heart pounding."

The handle, Pingping Anan Yongfu, is among at least 8 in recent months which have shared accounts on Chinese social media platform Weibo of being arrested for publishing gay erotic fiction. As authors recounted their experiences, dozens of lawyers offered pro bono help.

At least 30 writers, nearly all of them women in their 20s, have been arrested across the country since February, a lawyer defending one told the BBC. Many are out on bail or awaiting trial, but some are still in custody. Another lawyer told the BBC that many more contributors were summoned for questioning.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 19 hours ago (6 children)

You don’t even have to be charged with anything before ICE grabs you off the street at throws you in a van in the US…

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Very typical .ml whataboutism. Both things can be bad at the same time. This is not a null sum game.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It's not whataboutism to tell the pot to shut the fuck up when it's calling the kettle black

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

WAHHHHH THE (non atrocity causing civilians of) COUNTRIES THAT COMMIT ATROCITIES ARE CALLING OUT MY TEAM AND I FEEL MORALLY OBLIGATED TO DEFEND MY TEAM FOR THEIR ATROCITIES.

-you

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Can you connect these dots for me?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yeah, unfortunately the US is becoming more and more like China in this regard.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

And I assume you wish the US to keep doing that because China is doing that and it's clearly working?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

I’m simply responding to the commenter’s comparison to “the west”. Like, if that’s the game we’re gonna play I think I just scored a point. Both situations are obviously terrible duh

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Use of the expression to discredit or deflect a claim of wrongdoing by attacking the originator of the claim for their own similar behaviour (rather than acknowledging the guilt of both) is the tu quoque logical fallacy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

My own similar behavior? I'm not shoving gays into prison, you fucking idiot.

This isn't high school debate club and knowing two latin words doesn't make you smart

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I quoted directly from the Wikipedia page you provided but okay 🤷‍♂️.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 hours ago

Your behavior would have gotten you kicked out of a high school debate club by now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Very USA-Centric of you lol

USA =/= "The West"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago

USA is very much the "west".

The "west" is a code for "country who think of themselves as white and civilised".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

The US is part of the west. If it happens in the US, it happens in the west, because the US is in the west.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago

Also useless whataboutism. The sign of someone who has no arguments left to defend their beliefs.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yes it's fucking horrible, I have the misfortune of living in the US but the same goes for China, North Korea, Russia and I could go on.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 19 hours ago

Which is true for China as well