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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 days ago (16 children)

watching this happening in real time makes me wonder if the only reson germany lost was bc they started a war. bc rn it seems like we r doing what germany did but havent started a world war yet which will be interesting bc wed prob end up like russia, china, and NK etc. everyone know there are concentratiosn camps and human right violations but nobody would do anything bc there isnt a valid reason too yet bc if anyobe does anything, itll be taken as a sign of aggression and possibly war

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (9 children)

💯%. the US was heavily isolationist at the start of WWII, and pretty anti-Semitic. for example, the St. Louis, a boat full of Jewish refugees, was turned away from the US and Canada in 1939 - and turned back to Europe, with many Jews eventually imprisoned and murdered by the Nazis. there were also the blackshirts in the UK, who were pro-Nazi, and PM Chamberlain had a peace treaty drawn up with Hitler. and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with the Soviets, of course.

so if the Nazis had been content to murder only German, Austrian and Czech Jews, they would have gotten away with it.

on the other hand, Nazi ideology (e.g. "lebensraum" and their belief in the destiny of the Aryan race to conquer the "inferior" races) drove them to war, to invade Poland and to break their pact with the Soviets. and they also spent tons of resources on the Holocaust, at the expense of their military.

so basically yeah, isolationist Nazis would have totally survived, but otoh Nazis aren't isolationists.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

ngl i was kinda hoping you'd say my statement is bull and germany wouldve been wiped out anyways regardless of starting a war lol (: i hate this timeline ;-;

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry 🫂 there's not always a happy ending. the genocide of Native Americans, for example.

take care of yourself, and take care of your trans and migrant siblings. that's all we can really do, but maybe it's enough. ❤️

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just saying, they will fall apart without dear leader. Nobody else in his camp can rile up the people like he does. And half of his camp still hates him, but has fallen in line. But time is of the essence here. The longer you wait the worse it will get. If you wait for old age to do the job, the damage done might be too great.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

Nobody else in his camp can rile up the people like he does.

That's what they said about Kim Il Sung. Few thought Kim Jong Il would be able to take his place. Now we're on our 3rd generation. I think there's enough hate whipped up, they'll follow anyone that lets them take it out on the vulnerable

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