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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Bike touring beats "road trips" by car any day of the week.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Except in terms of speed, safety, convenience, and comfort.

Great exercise, very green, and an experience though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

except in terms of speed

Is... Is that the point, on a vacation? Id want to see stuff.

safety

Yeah, drivers try to kill cyclists all the time. They're a menace.

convenience

On amtrak, i can go to the cafe car, get wasted, eat salty snacks, drop some acid, stare out the window for a couple hours, then nap. All without stopping.

The internet doesnt break. The bathrooms always work. The seats are comfier. What the fuck am i missing?

comfort

Citation. Fucking. Needed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You will see stuff in a car, especially out west. Seeing things doesn't really have relevance unless we are talking hundreds of miles per hour. A bike is slower than a car.

As convenience goes, we are talking about using a bike, not going on a train.

As far as comfort goes, a car is more comfortable than a bike. If you disagree, you only know economy cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I have driven a lot in the west, and what you see is just automobile infrastructure, which is pretty much the same everywhere and incredibly ugly.

The interesting sites require you to hike away from the roads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

see things

Yeah. The road and cars around you, if you dont have 'a driver'.

bikes not convenient

Because you need to move to move? Yeah. Also, you can take it much farther on most trails than a car.

bike less comfy than car

Uh, okay. So walk? Stay on the train?

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