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[–] [email protected] 51 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Why does this administration do anything?

Corruption. Someone is receiving money off it, somehow.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Why can't they ever be corrupt in a way that's good for the environmental? Have a conflict of interest that leads to more trains or solar or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Because environmentalists don't have any money. Hard to corrupt the system when you don't have the money to do it with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Donald trump, before he got his R branding, was kiiiiind of like this on 'trans women are women' via extreme misogyny and geberally being a creep.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I guess a stopped clock is still right twice a day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah. Big 'okay please stop respecting me now' vibes.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Because the Department of Transportation is now a wholly owned subsidiary of ExxonMobil.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 50 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe because the automotive market is doing poorly at the moment, and gas demand is down as well.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think it’s the economic cratering rather than simple preferences at work here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 16 hours ago

Presumably people are chosing food over travel...

10% of Americans account for 50% of discretionary consumption. We are technically already in bifurcated economy.

The poors living hand to mouth without possibly of gaining sufficient capital to escape their condition.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 15 hours ago

WOW

As for why the Department of Transportation wants people to drive to all these places — rather than to travel there by the many other means of transportation it theoretically oversees — Sean Duffy's answer was, essentially, 'because America.'

[–] [email protected] 18 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Road trips are great, I just prefer to take them by bus.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Train* when available.

Bring a bike with you and you can basically go anywhere on your trip

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe in Europe or any other country that has a good or decent passenger rail system.

In America you can't reach a lot of the country by rail and so many things worth seeing aren't reasonably reach with a bike.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

you cant even reach nearby tech campuses without a car, and it also a convoluted roads/free way highways in our area. nearby as in 25+miles from a major city, this alone limits people wanting to get into biotech jobs.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 18 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Bike touring beats "road trips" by car any day of the week.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Said like a true european or someone who lives in a huge city with biking infrastructure.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Except in terms of speed, safety, convenience, and comfort.

Great exercise, very green, and an experience though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

except in terms of speed

Is... Is that the point, on a vacation? Id want to see stuff.

safety

Yeah, drivers try to kill cyclists all the time. They're a menace.

convenience

On amtrak, i can go to the cafe car, get wasted, eat salty snacks, drop some acid, stare out the window for a couple hours, then nap. All without stopping.

The internet doesnt break. The bathrooms always work. The seats are comfier. What the fuck am i missing?

comfort

Citation. Fucking. Needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You’re genuinely brain-damaged if you think bikes are more comfortable than cars. No citation needed—it’s called having an ass. Like bikers literally get injuries for sitting on those microscopic seats for too long.

And we were talking about bikes, and you started talking about how amtrak is more convenient. Fucking huh??? Again, brain damaged.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

take bike on train

You... You get off the bike to get onto the train. You know that, right?

injuries: bike butt!

I guess I've always felt more uncomfortable in and around cars. For some reason. I have dead nerves all over my fucking grizzled-ass fucking body thanks to cars. Places i just don't feel anymore.

If i have problems with bike butt, i can sorta stand for a few minutes; it's fine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

You will see stuff in a car, especially out west. Seeing things doesn't really have relevance unless we are talking hundreds of miles per hour. A bike is slower than a car.

As convenience goes, we are talking about using a bike, not going on a train.

As far as comfort goes, a car is more comfortable than a bike. If you disagree, you only know economy cars.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I have driven a lot in the west, and what you see is just automobile infrastructure, which is pretty much the same everywhere and incredibly ugly.

The interesting sites require you to hike away from the roads.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

see things

Yeah. The road and cars around you, if you dont have 'a driver'.

bikes not convenient

Because you need to move to move? Yeah. Also, you can take it much farther on most trails than a car.

bike less comfy than car

Uh, okay. So walk? Stay on the train?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Except in terms of speed

Exploring isn't meant to mean zooming through communities as fast as you can. You can cover over 100km a day by bike, and truly experience the areas you're passing through.

safety

Probably safer than driving. People in cars make cycle touring unsafe, but you don't have to bike alongside them in many cases.

convenience

This is a matter of perspective. Some people, like myself, enjoy planning, gearing up, and executing the plan way more than "what's the easiest way to do this?".

comfort.

Debatable. I find sitting in a car for hours at a time to be excruciating. But I can sit on my bike and ride for 10+ hours at a time, and still want more. And if you're in traffic? Good luck.

If you are doing a proper cycle tour or bikepacking adventure, there's going to be a lot of opportunities to stop, visit local spots, eat, etc.

To me, a "road trip" is about the experience. Everything that comes after that is going to be about how you get to enjoy that experience. And I'd rather be doing it outside of a metal cage. I think most people who've experienced more than just driving would probably agree.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Also, shut the fuck up about how cars are debatably more comfortable.

If it’s pouring rain outside, would you rather sit in a car or on a bike? If there’s a blizzard outside, would you rather sit in a car or on a bike?

Like shut the fuck up with your dumbass bad faith arguments. You just want to be right. I fucking hate cars, but they’re literally designed for a comfortable, air-conditioned sit.

God I hate bitches who just argue for the sake of arguing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Your response proves you’re not from america and have no idea what you’re talking about 🤣 (americans don’t know what kilometers are)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If you have never driven through the middle of America, you would have quite the time trying to do so on a bike.

It would be an adventure, to say the least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Bike fits on a train much easier than a car at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even know if America has passenger trains with car carrying. I believe that is a thing in Europe and maybe Asia.