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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how they'd look at it if previous cracking attempts wiped the device. Is that "failure" to unlock punishable or not? The phone was wiped already - the user can't unlock it even if he wanted to.

Similarily, is it possible to make it impossible to prove the device was wiped due to the PIN and not beforehand?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I had the same question. The best would be to consult a lawyer and see if there's any precedent already set.

I could imagine police could easily film the process and a video would be enough proof for any judge. The phone shows a pin entry, a reboot, and then a welcome screen just like a factory reset has been done. Right?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I thought of it as two seperate problems:

The first one is legal - if the person asked to surrender credentials surrenders them, and the device turns out to be reset (assuming no foul play), does this constitute the crime of not surrendering the credentials?

If the answer to one is "yes", the technological question begs itself: How to make a duress pin indistinguishable from the real one?