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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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Democrats retreat on climate: ‘It’s one of the more disappointing turnabouts’ | A changing political climate has California Democrats recalibrating on climate policies. (www.politico.com)
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Not my favorite source, but not a lot of other coverage.

It's going to take two things to change this:

  • Communication to make sure that elected officials hear from us. That means calling, writing, turning up in person, trying to have private conversations with staff, etc.
  • Active intervention in primaries, so that it's much harder to get elected if you don't support decarbonization
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (6 children)

Carter said cut back and lost. Gore ran on it and lost. Hillary ran on it and lost. Biden didn't run on it, but did it anyway and was going to lose. Harris didn't say it, but it was clear she'd continue Biden's policy and lost. The track record isn't good, people don't care about this issue. Inb4 Lemmy's misreading, I think it's the most important issue, but the voters don't seem to.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"Inb4 lemmy misreading" what is there to misread? You never actually made a point, and ignored literally everything else about their campaigns that actually did have measurable effects on their outcomes.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Lemmy misreads that I don't want climate progress. I do. But I acknowledge that it's a losing election issue (see history). But you seem to have misread in a different way which I honestly don't even understand what you're trying to say.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think assuming any issue that affects capitalists is unpopular because it doesn't win US elections is just ignorant of basically every part of our electoral system, government, media ecosystem, etc. People don't have that much input and to the extent that they do, they get constantly mislead by the people who have both the means and motive to push their message against popular will or interest.

We have to reckon with THAT problem instead of just incorrectly despairing that people don't care. That doesn't get us anywhere.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Who said "any issue that affects capitalists"? I said environmental progress, greenhouse gasses in particular, is not a winning election issue. (Again, I want it to be, but I acknowledge it's not.) If you're going to strawman that badly, holy cow. I'm out.

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