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Former GM Executive: BYD cars are good in terms of design, features, price, quality. If we let BYD into the U.S. market, it could end up destroying american manufacturers (www.nytimes.com)
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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

While they are subsidised, the Chinese are really good at low cost manufacturing. It’s not the cheap labour anymore but factory automation and robotics. They really outclass anyone else.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

the Chinese are really good at low cost manufacturing

They're not "good" at it, they just have no minimum wage and no semblance of annoying things like worker protections or unions to be concerned with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

China doesn't have a national minimum wage, but minimum wage is delegated to the local level there and definitely exists in every single province. Just echoing what the other user said, literally everything you said here is easily disprovable. https://www.china-briefing.com/news/minimum-wages-China/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Beijing has the highest hourly minimum wage (RMB 26.4/US$3.7 per hour)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Glad you learned something!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They actually have a problem with workers or the lack of them and they have invested heavily in robotics. They aren’t the China of the 70s and 90s. It’s really something that we need to face up to if we want to compete but our political class isn’t really ready for that sort of reality. Years behind because of smugness.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

We can't compete with a country that pays their workers $1/hr without doing the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

like worker protections or unions

That's just patently false. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-China_Federation_of_Trade_Unions

It is the largest trade union in the world with 302 million members in 1,713,000 primary trade union organizations.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago

Like all things in China, this is owned by the government, making it pointless.